View Single Post
Old 03-12-2008, 02:15 PM   #21 (permalink)
Martian
Young Crumudgeon
 
Martian's Avatar
 
Location: Canada
Quote:
Originally Posted by QuasiMondo
I have never ever ever met a mature 15-year-old. I've met plenty of 15-year-olds who think they're mature, but never one who actually is.
Mature isn't a boolean argument. Are there 15 year olds out there more mature than the average 17 or even 18 year olds? I would contend that there are, although they're admittedly quite rare.

Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Jazz
I'll go one farther. The girl goes to bed one night illegal and wakes up the next legal. Or she can stay up late, walk out of the room and walk back in legal. It's definitely weird.

That said, I don't see any alternative. If you're going to protect the kids that aren't ready, you've got to hold back the kids that are. It's one of the things I actually like about the Tennessee system. It acknowledges that kids will have sex, but it makes sure that they're not having sex with adults, just people who are within a reasonable age. A 17-year old can have sex with a 19-year old, for instance. I don't have a problem with that. I do have a problem with the same 17-year old having sex with a 50-year old. There is an inherent problem in that dynamic.
I'm not sure I see your point there. I will agree that there does need to be some division, but I don't understand how a 50 year old having sex with a 17 year old is any different from a 19 year old having sex with a 17 year old (besides the visceral 'ew' factor). If we're going to acknowledge that a 17 year old is mature enough to make the decision to have sex, how does the age of the other party factor into it?
__________________
I wake up in the morning more tired than before I slept
I get through cryin' and I'm sadder than before I wept
I get through thinkin' now, and the thoughts have left my head
I get through speakin' and I can't remember, not a word that I said

- Ben Harper, Show Me A Little Shame
Martian is offline  
 

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360