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Ok ...... for anyone truly wanting to discuss immigration.... my views are stated above but the primary reason I believe in my view (enforcement and prosecution of Immigration laws) is this:

I would rather see our government help Mexicans and other countries citizens, build a better infrastructure in their own country so that they may flourish there.

I would rather see us take some of the Iraqi war money, go to Mexico work with them to build schools, better roads, help educate their citizenry so that in years to come they can have pride in their country. They can take pride in what they accomplished. So that ALL the citizens of those countries have a chance to advance.

But instead let them enter, work above slave labor jobs, live in squalor and who cares.

See the problem is and if you look at EVERY past immigration thread where I have commented ..... I was attacked for some of my views negatively, put on a defensive and minds already decided.

Once labeled, attacked and dismissed it makes it very hard to continue to care enough to try to get across one's true thoughts because you've already been beaten down and your words used against you... even though someone just took 1 little sliver, disregarded the rest and ran that sliver up a flag pole to try to destroy anything you may want to say.

I attempted to do it above to you, Will, to demonstrate this. If negativity is all people will argue with and use to try to win.... then the positive ideas get buried and never discussed.

Now am I a Racist/Xenophobic asshole?

Well, I suppose those that labeled me will find reasons to still say yes. I'm also sure not many will understand what any of his the past few days has been about.... because they would rather stay negative minded.

I pretty much saw that talking about Obama.

Ghandi, I believe was one of many great teachers that taught this lesson "IF you come across negative people, do not meet them with negativity, but with understanding and love and demonstrate to them that flaws in their thinking with positive ideas."

But then again what do I know? I'm a racist, xenophobic, simple minded, brained washed idiot who still believes in his country and that our country should be helping others build not destroying others or ourselves with negativity.

I must go but, I'm making the checkmate move here first.

For months I went on rants about how Politics here needed changed. It was negative, run by a small elite group and no one could truly get anything discussed without attacks.

So I thought out some things and I took excruciating time (not really but it sounds good) to come up with a plan to maybe change things.

First, try to show people how if they run into negativity even, offensive crude negativity... they will only reinforce ideas if they meet it with more negativity. Meet it with acceptance and try to positively change views, change may happen, minds maybe opened. (That was Obama)

Then... show people how when one is labeled and slivers of their ideas and views used against them and everything else ignored.... how it keeps minds closed and no changes, just division, hard feelings and more negativity grows.

Some may understand this... and hopefully, they and I will be able to have great exchanges.

Those who don't understand will continue with the negative styles they flourish in.

Think what you want but I think there are some people that are going to be more open or seeing how to be and will try..... and I feel there maybe more positive threads here yet.

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I just love people who use the excuse "I use/do this because I LOVE the feeling/joy/happiness it brings me" and expect you to be ok with that as you watch them destroy their life blindly following. My response is, "I like to put forks in an eletrical socket, just LOVE that feeling, can't ever get enough of it, so will you let me put this copper fork in that electric socket?"