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Old 03-10-2008, 09:32 PM   #32 (permalink)
pan6467
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Originally Posted by mixedmedia
Are you really expecting an answer to this question? As if there is a watermark when someone becomes a racist?

I come here just like you, pan, I speak frankly and I state my observations. In this case, observations that were not made over the course of a thread, but over the course of many threads perused over the last 2+ years. Now, I am a brainwashed tool of the media which is, I think, quite a bit more out of left field than my own observation about you. That being that I got the impression from your posting here that you have reactionary issues with race and culture that could colloquially be referred to as racist. And, like dc, I suggested that perhaps you might reflect on why it is that people are seeing you in that way. But I see you've been too busy stoking the fires of righteous indignation to bother with that sort of trivial business.

You can call me whatever you like, pan, and I will accept what is true, dismiss what is patently false, and dwell on the things that give me pause. I'm not about to start a thread decrying my labelling as a brainwashed media tool because that one I can dismiss. Perhaps you should do the same.

See but if you do not state what observations you make when a person says, "I'm not racist, why do you say that." And you choose to just say "because and I'm not going to waste time."

How is one to learn how they got that label in your eyes? How does one learn to maybe correct themselves? Asking someone to "figure it out" when they obviously do not see a problem does not solve any problem but creates bigger ones.

But what do I know?

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Originally Posted by willravel
This is why people think you're probably a racist. You refuse to explain why it's actually wrong.

This is a prime example. Why is it illegal to go 100 mph in a 25 zone? You know the answer. I know the answer: you're putting people in danger. 25 mph zones are usually residential and don't have longer curves like highways so it's easier to crash. Why is it illegal to cross our borders and to live here?

Until you answer that, your motives are still a mystery and people fill in the blank with the reason people who make similar arguments present which is usually rooted in racism or xenophobia. Not only that, but until you answer that, there's no discussion. If you said, for example, they're taking jobs, then that could be argued and countered based on facts. If you said that they steal, we could argue that on it's merits. All you say is "it's ILLEGAL". Considering that in Texas, it's against the law for anyone to have a pair of pliers in his or her possession, laws aren't the end all be all of reason. They're a response to a reason.

ILLEGAL ≠ A REASON.

BTW, I don't think you're a racist. I don't know what you have against undocumented guests, but I don't think it's rooted in racism. I suspect it may be rooted in an emotional response to something, judging by the tone of your posts, but again, I don't think you're a racist.

WILL FOR THE FUCKING LOVE OF GOD DROP IT OR OPEN A NEW THREAD.
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