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Originally Posted by jewels443
I find it ironic that you raise ILLEGALS and Obama as part of the same thought process. Maybe I missed something. I didn't bother checking the other thread (and apologies in advance if I remember incorrectly, but didn't you assume Obama was a Muslim?)
My take is that the vast majority of the residents of this country are, at the very least, descendants of immigrants. Some of our great-grandparents, grandparents or parents came here illegally, some came legally. But they all came for the same reason.
Our forefathers understood this and the originating concept was that this was to be a land of freedom. Although some of the rules have been changed whether we like them or not, it's not comfortable to see/hear your constant references to ILLEGALS ARE ILLEGAL. PERIOD.
Although you may not mean it that way, it kinda rings of racism, although I've never called you one. Between the lines, it seems to say that the stories and the people don't matter, this is my country and they don't belong.
I'm only speaking for myself here. My other responses to you remain in the other thread, so I won't bring old baggage into the mix.
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No, I never knew Obama's religion, I did know his middle name was Hussein. Never mattered to me until the Bill Cunningham incident.
I gave examples of how I raised issues, argued issues and was labeled and the argument ended. It is a problem that is not just people picking on me, but a cheap way to win discussions on issues... or do you feel it is legit..... or where exactly is that line where one can ask about an issue debate it and not get labeled by the other side?
Again, THIS THREAD IS NOT ABOUT ME..... IT IS NOT MEANT TO STROKE MY EGO OR BEAT ME DOWN..... IT IS TO GET
YOUR VIEWS ON THE THREAD'S TOPIC.
Sorry I yelled, but I am no longer defending what I typed in the OP. If people want to use it to call me racist or to tell me I'm not.... fine. If people want to believe I'm just being pissy fine.
Ignore the OP and just answer the Title question.
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Originally Posted by silent_jay
Sounds like Dubya, if you spoke out before against his war on terror you were unpatriotic or you wanted the terrorists to win, or hated America, or my favourite, 'you're either with us or against us'.
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EXACTLY.