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Old 03-10-2008, 08:46 AM   #1 (permalink)
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When does political view become racist in your opinion?

I was recently labeled a "Racist" by a few people here because of a recent post and "past posts". While everyone is entitled to their own opinion and none who labeled me knows anything about me other than what I post here, it made me wonder, when does a political view in your eyes become racist?

Such as ILLEGAL ALIENS.... how is pointing out that I see ILLEGALS as that and that IMHO they have no rights because they are illegal and we legals are watching our own rights erode. But that is racist. Stating that terrorists could be some of those ILLEGALS, that they have bankrupted many of our Western states medical facilities, taken jobs, committed heavier crimes and so on... means nothing. Proof be damned you are a racist and Xenophobe to demand people be actually LEGALLY here in order to get jobs and medical attention and enjoy what rights we have here.

I have even stated, you change the laws and I can no longer say anything... but again, that just leads to a racist label. The saddest part is they hound the label and pound it and pound it until you are no longer fighting the issue of ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION but whether or not you are a racist/xenophobic person who does strange things to cats with your fork. And you best keep your cool, don't get emotional .... even though the labeler will because you'll make a mistake, say the wrong thing because they keep twisting everything you say and then they'll have their "proof".

This is just an example, I'm sure the thread is out there but I am not going to dig for it.
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How is it racist when you don't even name a nationality/ethnicity/race of those ILLEGALS?

Well, you truly mean those from Mexico.

No, ANY person ILLEGALLY here is ILLEGAL.

You're a xenophobe and racist and hate Mexicans.

But while a majority of ILLEGALS come from Mexico, they come from everywhere and ILLEGAL is ILLEGAL, just like speeding, stealing, murder.

You're a racist/xenophobe....not all Mexicans are that way.....

and so on.....
The political discussion, the opportunity to work on solutions never stood a chance.

I realized recently.... as long as those who can keep that "racist/Xenophobic" argument alive and only have to answer any of the questions with..... "well you're racist/xenophobic" they don't have to truly think about the problem or it's solution.

Recently, I became quite pissed because people demanded Bill Cunningham's radio job, called him racist and tried to "Imus" him... why? Not because he said "nappy headed ho" or went on some racist diatribe. No, all Bill did was at a fund raiser in Ohio for McCain, in introducing John McCain, Bill said "Barak Hussein Obama". That's it. McCain even distanced himself from the comment.

Who cares? If people want to use his middle name like that? Are you scared, someone in this country may hear the name Hussein (which is Obama's legal middle name) and not vote for the man because of that 1 reason? If so you are about as small minded as a person who would not vote for a man or woman solely because of the middle name.

To be demanding Bill Cunningham's job because of that? To me that is hateful and censorship.

Because of this I finally made a decision to look up Obama's church. That brought about this post (it's #2) in this thread "http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthread.php?t=132019 ".

All of a sudden I'm racist again. It's only an issue to those that are racist looking for reasons not to like Obama.... blah blah blah.... Then I really pay attention and the past week or 2 Obama supporters answer everything by bringing up race when you push political issues with them.

Anyway, I want to know your opinion, when does political views becomes racist..... or is it just possible a certain faction of our population has been almost brainwashed to believe that any view differing from theirs must be driven by racism/xenophobia/prejudice of whatever kind they wish to utilize and try to silence that opposing view?

And no, the question, I admit is quite biased..... because my opinion is just that, my opinion. I am a firm believer that a certain faction has been brainwashed to believe or just so wanting to "win" yet lack anything to defend their views that all they can do is label and attack the person and not the view.

Those people are scary, because they are proving they care more about what the media, what others around them think than facts and either investigating the issue so they can argue without bringing those labels in.... or just stating that they have their view and that's that.

I also realize that as long as the powers that be, the politicians and media, can keep these arguments alive no one can expect anything to get done. You can silence people into submission because they are scared they too will be labeled and no one wants labeled... not to mention have their job threatened, their lives microscoped, and so on.
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