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Originally Posted by pan6467
I can accept the changes in entertainment.... I guess that is just me getting old.
But really come on now, people work hard and try to live the American dream and because they didn't have the right credit they end up in an ARM... then they lose their jobs and rates go up? How is that their fault? And to say "it's just business".
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Or some of us go to school later in life, get fed the "financial aid" BS and after graduation, can't find a job and get stuck with 10's of thousands of school debt.....get the ARM because the school debt has swallowed us whole and then can barely make the mortgage....these weren't bad decisions, just bad results because those that control the money don't want to give it up without a fight.
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Originally Posted by pan6467
Have we truly become so fucking greedy that we just don't care about others problems as long as we have ours?
I mean we look for cheaper products, so we can buy more, but in the end we ship jobs overseas and the jobs we do keep here pay less and less so then we have to find cheaper goods but that leads to even more jobs being lost and lower wages and so on...... we are facing a downward spiral and all anyone can say is "It's business now, tough shit learn to deal with it...etc".
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Being caught up in exactly that, it's hard to see it as "just business" but what else is it? The spouse lost what was thought to be a very secure job with a huge cosmetics manufacturer only to be told after 16.5 years that it's "just business,buhbye" as they move to Costa Rica or some such place.
This nation is becoming a nation of services, no longer interested in the pride of the American-made label because it's become too expensive to support those who make slapping that label on the box possible. It is a cycle of greed, but it's not the American worker who comes out of it unscathed. CEO's discovered the power of vested interest, took their wallets and ran outta town.
Jack Roush, a NASCAR car owner, ranted last year about allowing Toyota into Cup racing because it wasn't an American carmaker. Ironically, the badge, Camry, is the only fully-made American car in NASCAR. Chevy, Ford and Dodge all have most of their parts made off-shore.
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Then we have candidates, that be honest now, are so inept and have no ideas how to save this country from the downward spiral, that it is sad. Not one of these candidates would have ever gotten this close to the presidency 10,20,30 years ago..... We need a truly great leader to save this country and we get Obama, McCain and Clinton? Wow.
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AMEN! This election year is pitiful. Simply pitiful. There's two candidates arguing their "experience" and there's less than 20 years of that experience between them. Since when is being married to a president "experience"? I'm actually scared of whatever the results in November will be and I've been voting for 30 years. Did you know that if Hillary got elected, by the end of that first term we'd have had a quarter century of Bush/Clinton "leadership"? *me shudders
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We are at war and yet we buy more and more imports every year. China is our greatest rival and enemy and we are worried that they may cash in their dollars and plummet our economy? How the Hell did we allow them to get that much power over us?
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Nixon probably thought that by opening the trade with China, it would cause the downfall of their communism. He was wrong. In the meantime the afore-mentioned CEOs liked their growing bank accounts and couldn't care less about the politics of it all. Greed has no social conscience.
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And we won't even talk about how crazy we all seem to be getting.
As much as I want to be optimistic and love this country and believe that we will overcome.... I just can't be that anymore. I see a sad out of control downward spiral and not enough people care enough to stop it.
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People care, but the power is not in laymen's hands. As you mentioned, look what we have running for president. Look who is controlling the money, the war machine, the nation's resources. It's not you, not me and not our neighbors. The millions of us are controlled by the few of them. Know how, if you go to a go-go bar, wave a 10 dollar bill, the dancer will come to you, wiggle her ass and get your $10? We're expected to wiggle while the ones holding everything call the shots. Example: I just got our gas and electric bill-$1200, part of which is from being past due. Can I pay it all? Nope. Can I tell them to shove it and I'll go elsewhere? Nope. I gotta wiggle....and I'm too busy wiggling to help anyone else or even come up with how to help anyone else.
We care, Pan, at least most of us. But we're all going down the same spiral and grabbing onto whatever we can to at least slow the fall. There are those who, like CYN, feel it's NMP and they're probably right. But when things get so askew that every newscast starts with what's happening with our economy, when people are forced to make choices between going out to dinner or paying a bill, the effects spread to everyone, whether they care or not.
Every decade for as long as I can remember, we've been listening to the doomsayers proclaim this country near a recession, in a recession, heading towards a depression, etc. It's still never gotten as bad as 1929 and I doubt it will.Doesn't make it any less scary for those of us walking the edge, but I have to believe that not every tunnel is endless.