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No one's cross the line yet (barely), but this thread has all the hallmarks of one that could easily get out of control. My only input at this point is to use your back button liberally, not to make any personal attacks and to chose your words carefully. I know we can have this discussion without calling each other names. Please make your goal to debate the topic and not each other.
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