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Originally Posted by filtherton
Well, if you're talking about murder as a legal construct, then no, it is definitely not murder. On the other hand, if what you mean by murder is that someone or thing has killed someone or thing else in a way you find displeasing, well, then fur is murder too. The only reason the word murder comes up is because it carries a certain emotional weight- whether it actually is murder or not is irrelevant.
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The legal definition of murder doesn't include abortion today, but it has before and it may in the future. Murder is separated from manslaughter by "intention to cause grievous injury and death resulted" or "conduct with a "depraved heart" showing lack of care for human life". Abortions are carried out with clear intent to end the function of the body of a fetus (I'll avoid using the word "kill" here in the interest of middle ground), and this does represent a lack of care for the fetus. I would say that even from the perspective of one who for whatever reason does not believe the fetus to be alive this is
close to murder.
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Originally Posted by filtherton
So? I thought you were a scientist. The fact that you can do things is piss poor evidence that other people can do them.
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So you can tell me that everything you ever thought you could do you've done and everything you believe you cannot do you've not done? "Piss poor", indeed. All the evidence I need is one person who is incorrect about his or her potential. It's a guess, and as such there is always a chance it is wrong.
Besides all of that, you made the determination that if someone believes that they are not "up to the task" then they are correct. You didn't support this idea with anything, despite having the burden of proof. I demonstrated that I am an exception to your supposed rule, and then you say that "you can do things" but that everyone else can't, AGAIN, with no evidence or even a theory as to how or why this is so. I have provided proof that some people can be incorrect about their potential using myself as an example. Can you demonstrate how I am an exception to the rule using evidence and logic?