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Originally Posted by MrSelfDestruct
I've been told it's easy to brush off and put in the back of your mind if you're at war, the other guy is shooting at you, and you pop him from hundreds of feet away, but self defense is an up-close-and-personal thing, it's really rough even if you had to do it.
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Sometimes you worry about yourself when it isn't.
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Originally Posted by willravel
You know what sucks about killing in "self-defense", explained as a home invasion/robbery? Someone has to die because you don't want them to have your shitty 18" Awex color TV and rabbit ears. What sucks is that some people just can't wait to get their gun off because they have some terrible misunderstanding of how humans are supposed to treat other humans. They have no concept of the value of human life. That sucks.
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You should recognize the stink waft coming from those comments, bro. C'mon, man. You know damn well it isn't about the type or value of the property. It is about someone breaking into your house. If they break into your house with a lethal weapon (large knife, firearm) or pose a lethal threat (big man vs. your tiny wife) they should be neutralized. They've already committed two felonies just by showing up in your living room with a weapon.
Straight burglary? We've been over this. If they guy is smart enough to case your house... he's smart enough to know when you're not home. Darwin's ideas apply to thieves.
You talk about people who have no concept of the value of human life... I assume you mean the homeowners who get scared when someone breaks into their house and get trigger happy. What do you say about the human toilet that is breaking into my house with a Glock in his hand?
C'mon.
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Originally Posted by Fire
crompsin- I do not find using a gun dehumanizing, and respectfully disagree that it would be easier or involve "more of me" to use one weapon over another- hence my contention that no weapon is inherently more or less "honorable" any more than a table saw is more honorable than a drill press- its a tool for the job situation, and I am comfortable with either- some people are not so comfortable, for example, while in school, I was present at a talk by a vietnam era navy seal, who had killed a great number of people, and he was most bothered by the one he had killed with a knife (he was very adamant about this, and became distressed while talking about it) while blowing people up was not a big thing for him- conversely, a green beret colonel who came in had a similar carear and was bothered by something different- thus, I suppose that people will react differently to the stress of having to kill someone- personally, I feel that it is not the how but the fact that it had to happen that should bother someone.......
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You just reinforced that a bladed weapon is more personal and thus more demanding than a firearm... making firearms easier to use if only to say that it is easier to pull a trigger than it is to cut a man What are we trying to debate here? I'm lost.