12-15-2007, 12:37 AM
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Playing With Fire
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Originally Posted by Fotzlid
interesting.
never heard of this stuff before. is it something that has become popular fairly recently?
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Salvia divinorum has become increasingly well-known and more widely available in modern culture. The rise of the Internet since the 1990s has seen the growth of many businesses selling live Salvia plants, dried leaves, extracts and other preparations. During this time medical experts and accident and emergency rooms have not been reporting cases that suggest particular health concerns and police have not been reporting it as a significant issue with regard to public order offences. Yet Salvia divinorum has attracted increasing attention from the media and some lawmakers.
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Originally Posted by casual user
it's not that great. it lasts like 30 seconds and i didn't feel it as strongly as i had heard about. the time i did it while drinking all it did was make me way drunker.
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Psychedelic experiences are necessarily somewhat subjective and variations in reported effects are to be expected. Aside from individual reported experiences there has been a limited amount of published work summarising the effects. D.M. Turner's book "Salvinorin - The Psychedelic Essence of Salvia Divinorum" quotes Daniel Siebert's summarisation, mentioning that the effects may include:[32]
An example of Salvia inspired Visionary artUncontrollable laughter.
Past memories, such as revisiting places from childhood memory.
Sensations of motion, or being pulled or twisted by forces.
Visions of membranes, films and various two-dimensional surfaces.
Merging with or becoming objects (for example a Ferris wheel).
Overlapping realities, such as the perception of being in several locations at once.
A survey of Salvia users found that 38% described the effects as unique. 23% said the effects were like yoga, meditation or trance.[33]
Media reporters rarely venture to take Salvia for themselves but one firsthand journalistic account has been published in the UK science magazine New Scientist:
"the salvia took me on a consciousness-expanding journey unlike any other I have ever experienced. My body felt disconnected from "me" and objects and people appeared cartoonish, surreal and marvellous. Then, as suddenly as it had began, it was over. The visions vanished and I was back in my bedroom. I spoke to my "sitter" - the friend who was watching over me, as recommended on the packaging - but my mouth was awkward and clumsy. When I attempted to stand my coordination was off. Within a couple of minutes, however, I was fine and clear-headed, though dripping with sweat. The whole experience had lasted less than 5 minutes."[34]
There have been few books published on the subject. One notable example is Dale Pendell's work "Phamako/Poeia - Plants Powers, Poisons, and Herbcraft", which won the 1996 Firecracker Alternative Book Award[35] and has a chapter dedicated to Salvia divinorum. It includes some experience accounts:
"It's very intense, I call it a reality stutter, or a reality strobing. I think that having been a test pilot, and flying in that unforgiving environment with only two feet between our wingtips, helped to prepare me for this kind of exploration."[36]
Pendell expresses some concerns about the use of highly concentrated forms of Salvia. In its natural form Salvia is more balanced and benevolent, and quite strong enough, he argues. High strength extracts on the other hand can show "a more precipitous, and more terrifying, face" and many who try it this way may never wish to repeat the experience.[36]
Some have written extensive prose and/or poetry about their experiences.[37][38] Some describe their visions pictorially, and there exist examples of visionary art which claim to be Salvia inspired. Others claim musical inspiration from the plant.[38] An example is the song "Salvia divinorum" by 1200 Micrograms.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvia_divinorum
This link contains user experiences that last anywhere from minutes to days depending on the dosage & concentration......
http://www.erowid.org/experiences/su...ealth_Benefits
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