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Baraka_Guru · 11-26-2007, 05:25 PM

Wow, Shauk. While I would have a lot of fun pointing out your erroneous readings and fallacious responses, I won't. I'd rather just keep the discussion going. There is one point that sticks though: "...I find simplicity to suck...." This is where you get very subjective. Hip hop doesn't suck; you think hip hop sucks. There's a difference. Based on your comment on simplicity, you also think this sucks:

so much depends
upon

a red wheel
barrow

glazed with rain
water

beside the white
chickens.

If you don't recognize this, it is "The Red Wheelbarrow" by William Carlos Williams. He penned it in a couple of minutes. It is also known as one of the most beautiful poems of the 20th century, and a exceptional example of imagist poetry. I'm sorry to know you think it sucks.

There is little that sucks about rhyming eloquently over a 4X4 beat. This is what many poets have been doing for centuries, and this is what hip hop artists do in a modernized, musical context.

I consider this thread to be over, Shauk, if you won't accept my arguments. Although, I'd be willing to recast them and step them up if you're willing to listen.

11-26-2007, 05:25 PM	#93 (permalink)
Baraka_Guru warrior bodhisattva Super Moderator Location: East-central Canada	Wow, Shauk. While I would have a lot of fun pointing out your erroneous readings and fallacious responses, I won't. I'd rather just keep the discussion going. There is one point that sticks though: "...I find simplicity to suck...." This is where you get very subjective. Hip hop doesn't suck; you think hip hop sucks. There's a difference. Based on your comment on simplicity, you also think this sucks: so much depends upon a red wheel barrow glazed with rain water beside the white chickens. If you don't recognize this, it is "The Red Wheelbarrow" by William Carlos Williams. He penned it in a couple of minutes. It is also known as one of the most beautiful poems of the 20th century, and a exceptional example of imagist poetry. I'm sorry to know you think it sucks. There is little that sucks about rhyming eloquently over a 4X4 beat. This is what many poets have been doing for centuries, and this is what hip hop artists do in a modernized, musical context. I consider this thread to be over, Shauk, if you won't accept my arguments. Although, I'd be willing to recast them and step them up if you're willing to listen. __________________ Knowing that death is certain and that the time of death is uncertain, what's the most important thing? —Bhikkhuni Pema Chödrön Humankind cannot bear very much reality. —From "Burnt Norton," Four Quartets (1936), T. S. Eliot