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Originally Posted by Baraka_Guru
The real question is, can you dance to it?
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This isn't my question, it has no bearing on my stance, I could dance to a fucking washing machine if I so chose.
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Originally Posted by Baraka_Guru
This is how rap developed into hip hop: It became a medium to accompany dance. It might not be as complex or melodic as most other genres, but guess what?
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wait so you're seriously saying they invented music AFTER dancing?
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Originally Posted by Baraka_Guru
It's not supposed to be. But does that make it "suck"?
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Yes, I find simplicity to suck, hence why I don't dance to washing machines mentioned above.
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Originally Posted by Baraka_Guru
Not if people like it.
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People like cigarettes, doesn't mean it's good, people like fast food, doesn't mean it's good. People like different sports teams, doesn't mean they are good.
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Originally Posted by Baraka_Guru
Not if it gives them joy, or an outlet for their creativity, or, in many cases, for their anger and frustrations.
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many things in this world give joy, an outlet for creativity, anger and frustrations, it still doesn't mean it's good. Some people find joy in molesting underage schoolboys, some people find it to be a valid outlet for their anger to curbstomp you or shoot you if they are angry at you. while sure, rap/hip hop of this vein may be a "healthier alternative" it still doesn't change my question which had nothing to do with this sub topic at all.
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Originally Posted by Baraka_Guru
If it "sucks" or if it isn't musical enough for you, then that's too bad. It is a very legitimate musical genre, and its influence is far-reaching and is having a huge and often positive impact on communities around the world. If it can generate this much energy, all I can say is it isn't going away anytime soon:
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I don't care if it goes away or not, I'd just rather see the genre produce something a little more tangible in the way of memorable MUSIC, until then, well, I'm going to stand by my original question and demonstrate my ability to separate music from lyrics in this discussion.
Everyone saying "you can't separate them! it's part of the package are just proving my point that the music isn't good enough to stand on it's own.