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pan6467 · 11-26-2007, 01:36 PM

Ok..... let's look at it this way.

Do you believe in God? If no, what is your belief?

Are you fervent in your belief?

I'm sorry, to me Atheism is a religion that believes in nothing spiritually. (Agnosticism is the one that says there maybe....).

Now you can claim Scientific belief that there is no God, personal belief, statistically.... anyway you desire to say there is no God. But MY BELIEF is that if you are fervent, if you are so wrapped up in being an Atheist and that you scoff others beliefs or are so closed minded that you believe your belief to be the "only true belief". Then you are basically, for all intents and purposes no different than 99% of all other religions and religious zealots out there. It's just YOU choose to say you do not believe in anything.... but a belief in nothing is still a belief in something.

So for me, in my belief.... you choosing to say "there is no God" and being adamant to which so that no prayer can be in school, even if the school is willing to cover all major forms of spirituality, even the lack of, then you are just as pushing of your beliefs as the Christian Right, the extremist Muslim, etc. I say this because you are still pushing a spiritual belief, whether you accept it is a belief or not.

11-26-2007, 01:36 PM	#475 (permalink)
pan6467 Lennonite Priest Location: Mansfield, Ohio USA	Ok..... let's look at it this way. Do you believe in God? If no, what is your belief? Are you fervent in your belief? I'm sorry, to me Atheism is a religion that believes in nothing spiritually. (Agnosticism is the one that says there maybe....). Now you can claim Scientific belief that there is no God, personal belief, statistically.... anyway you desire to say there is no God. But MY BELIEF is that if you are fervent, if you are so wrapped up in being an Atheist and that you scoff others beliefs or are so closed minded that you believe your belief to be the "only true belief". Then you are basically, for all intents and purposes no different than 99% of all other religions and religious zealots out there. It's just YOU choose to say you do not believe in anything.... but a belief in nothing is still a belief in something. So for me, in my belief.... you choosing to say "there is no God" and being adamant to which so that no prayer can be in school, even if the school is willing to cover all major forms of spirituality, even the lack of, then you are just as pushing of your beliefs as the Christian Right, the extremist Muslim, etc. I say this because you are still pushing a spiritual belief, whether you accept it is a belief or not. __________________ I just love people who use the excuse "I use/do this because I LOVE the feeling/joy/happiness it brings me" and expect you to be ok with that as you watch them destroy their life blindly following. My response is, "I like to put forks in an eletrical socket, just LOVE that feeling, can't ever get enough of it, so will you let me put this copper fork in that electric socket?"