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Originally Posted by willravel
There are very few reliable gun stats online. It's something I discovered a few years ago in a similar conversation. BTW, it's not poisoning the well, if anything it's ad hominem fallacy as I discussed the credibility of the source, but really it's not a fallacy at all to question the validity of unsubstantiated stats from a gun enthusiast site about gun control. It's perfectly reasonable.
According to a UK Gov website, less than .05% of all crime in the UK is linked to guns.

The gun ban started in 1997. What do you see between 1997 and 2000?
Crime did go up 35% in 2003, but that was attributed to drugs, not guns. Gun crime is still VERY low.
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and yet, over numerous websites (not gun oriented) still talk about a rising crime rate. For over a year now it's been known that the UK gov has been hiding crime stats to avoid this specific issue.
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