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Originally Posted by Ustwo
Eh who said anything about full trust, but please, edited youtube shouldn't be what one bases their reality off of, it makes you a sad panda.
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It’s not the video, but the information in the video. This is exactly the point made at the beginning of this thread as well as the question which no one has answered.
I do agree with you, in my opinion someone shouldn’t base their whole belief system on what they might see in a video. The videos are just another tool to forward information. The same approach you are taking can be applied to any source of information- books, news, etc. I think the videos are ESPECIALLY effective when showing people caught in a lie and watching them scramble for words. You might be able to read a transcript of the footage on a site or book somewhere, but it doesn’t take ESP, astrology, or anything similar to analyze people and see when they are full of shit- and that can only be seen through video documentation.
I stand corrected referencing the statement about full trust; you have not stated anything similar DIRECTLY. Infact, once again by stating “who said anything about full trust” you insinuate (or as I’m interpreting it) that you may indeed NOT believe official stories. You intermittently make statements like you “wouldn’t be surprised if there was a conspiracy” and then defend the “official” stories by stating the conspiracy theories are bullshit.
You are obviously a very intelligent person. Without knowing you I do believe that you research or at least as far as your interest will carry you. When you say you don’t “fully” trust the government, what is your threshold? If you believe there “may be conspiracies” if even to a small degree where do you draw the line? I think you are above answering “when the information raises the bullshit flag”.
*An example being the badge man photo. The photo by itself is blurry and alone could be interpreted as an old Jewish guy standing next to a grey zombie. When that blurry photo is supplemented with the fact 58 eye witnesses (or just the ones YOU would only give credit for that ironically can be seen running on a VIDEO towards the spot where the photo was taken at the moment of the gunshot- I’m trying to understand how and why you would see that as complete bullshit. The point I’m making here is not about the photo, it’s the thought process that goes into seeing the conspiracies as bullshit. The same process happens with any conspiracy pertaining to the government. Do you believe in coincidence? If so, how many have to happen surrounding a particular event before you start to question what you’re being told.
I’ll use the JFK assassination as an example:
Coincidences
58 eye-witnesses to the assassination ignored by the Warren Commission when they said they felt shots had NOT come from the Book Depository
Most witnesses in Dealey Plaza ran up the Grassy Knoll after the shots while the authorities ran to the Book Depository
JFK’s ongoing de-escalation plans for Vietnam reversed within 48 hrs of the assassination (this theme sounds familiar)
Ten people taken into custody in Dealey Plaza were all released, some without so much as their names taken
Over 200 persons that were close eye witnesses were murdered or died VERY suspiciously (and conveniently) after 11/22/63 sometimes just hours before they were to be questioned, ALL within a 2 year period
LJ had the car (an important piece of forensic evidence cleaned and dismantled within days after the incident)
The car slows down as the shots are fired instead of speeding away
etc
etc
etc
This list could go on and on and I think you know that. Is there a point that two many stack up for you to see reasonable? Obviously not yet. For someone like myself I don’t go looking for them, I’m not trying to find shadows. On 9/11 when I heard a jet hit the Pentagon, my reaction wasn’t “Oh it’s the shadow government”. Its behavior like confiscating all the videos from the surrounding areas that had a clear view and refusing to release them that starts the questioning.
If you take the stance that you “mostly” believe the official stories (I not certain where you stand exactly), then you acknowledge that there is deception- even if it is slight. Where is your gauge on that? How much does it take to piss you off? How many examples of video footage showing politicians on both sides—lying, flat out, straight in your face lying- before you become bothered if any? Have you considered in your acknowledgment of possible corruption and conspiracies that NO level is acceptable.
The question posed at the start of this thread to you and everyone is what processes, and what sources are used to formulate your interpretation of reality, truth, and fact.
*I’m not asking that question to down you or anyone else; I would respectfully like to know. I was not my intention when creating this thread for it to turn into another place to sling sarcasm or aggression- but attempt to understand how people connect the same dots so differently.