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Originally Posted by dc_dux
How many times must this be repeated to sink in? The consensus is clear and unambiguous as expressed by the overwhelimg majority of climate scientists at the IPCC, the majority of scientists represented by 11 National Acadamies of Sciences around the world, as well as the American Meteorological Society, the American Geophysical Union, and the American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS) and other credible scientific bodies. |
Perhaps one more.
The reference to "The consensus" is a reference to what?
Is it that humans contribute to global warming?
That humans cause global warming?
That humans can prevent global warming?
That given current trends global warming will not be reversible?
That given current trends global warming will lead to catastrophe?
That is what has become confusing. That is what you folks need to clarify. I have read all of the above positions and if I attempt to discuss one of those postitions someone else ends up arguing another one to supposedly counter what was put on the table.
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You can continue to cherry pick scientists that disagree (Christy is one of the small number of dissenting voices within the IPCC), supported by articles you post that misrepresent the facts..... but that doesnt change the overwhelming consensus.
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O.k., lets see if you want to take this to the next level with Christy. He pretty much made a challenge to what he considers alarmists. He says:
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California and some Northeastern states have decided to force their residents to buy cars that average 43 miles-per-gallon within the next decade. Even if you applied this law to the entire world, the net effect would reduce projected warming by about 0.05 degrees Fahrenheit by 2100, an amount so minuscule as to be undetectable. Global temperatures vary more than that from day to day.
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So rather than commenting on Christy the man, why not have a scientist refute the claim. Many people are increasingly concerned about wasting resources to fix a problem with either the wrong solution or not fixing the problem at all.
That is a real issue worthy of discussion. My ignorance of Elvis sighting on polar ice caps or the openness of my mind is not.