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Originally Posted by analog
At 11 years old, there's no such thing as consensual (willing participant) sex with an adult. Whether they said "hey yeah that sounds like a good idea" or just get violated- either way, it's rape.
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Yes. I know. "It's wrong because the law says it's wrong". That was established long, long ago. Jeez... Once upon a time, the law also said that it was 'wrong' for two homosexuals to engage in concensual sex, but that was later repealed (Hence why using the law as a means upon which to argue makes little sense).
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A recurring theme in your posting is "if a kid is a willing participant, where's the harm?". That line of thinking makes me nervous about your already dubious tactics of shifting blame for boy rape onto "the gays" and downplaying "society"s role in protecting children by assigning an age at which it's felt that children become emotionally and mentally mature enough to consent to sexual intercourse, and are then deemed "adults" by law.
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First of all, I wasn't shifting any blame. I was simply giving you a fact. Secondly, I haven't downplayed anything. Anyone who has sex with anyone against their will should be prosecuted for rape. Never said they shouldn't be. Thirdly, do you not know/understand what arbitrary means? It wouldn't matter if the government suddenly decided to lower the age of consent to 10 or raise it to 30.
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So you're telling us that "if the kid likes it, it's ok" and that age of consent laws are arbitrary and bogus. Of what, exactly, are you trying to convince us? It seems like you're trying to justify sex with a child. Seriously, there's no other way to read that.
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Erm... I've said "consent laws are arbitrary" at least ten times now. You can't be any clearer than that. Once again, you've yet to provide me a reason why consensual sex with a child is wrong that isn't "Because the law says so!" The fact is that you don't have any reasoning as to why it's wrong, except you disagree with it. You can skirt around that issue as much as you like, but it doesn't change the truth in the statement.
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Considering only one third (and that's a high estimate) of child molestation victims are male, I immediately find that statement to be laughable nonsense, without having to delve any further.
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*Ahem*
I wonder where you get your statistics from...?
(Lemme' post this then I'll go find where I got that statement from.)
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You are ignorant. I'm not calling you stupid. I am calling you ignorant. You are ignorant.
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*Points above*
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Originally Posted by twistedmosaic
We're not talking about 13 year olds. We're talking about 6 year olds. And if you're trying to imply that you had a wonderful experience at 13 (or whenever) that didn't alter your viewpoint on the subject at all, you need to disclose that directly, rather than just wink wink nudge nudge.
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1.) No one is talking about 6-year olds. Am I, like, the only one who saw this line the OP:
He participated with other pedophiles on the Internet in the production of a series of podcasts with MBLA-type topics of why it is good for young teen boys to have adult boyfriends. NAMBLA only supports/supported consensual sex with teenage boys. I'm not sure where you got the rest of that from
2.) Hyacinthe knows what I mean. It's not what you think it is.