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Old 10-18-2007, 08:54 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Ustwo
Knowing how the machine worked (and still works though without nearly the insane level of fraud as before, though I'll be happy to fill you in) I can't see any chance of this not being true.
But just because an election is close, doesn't mean its got to be rigged against your guy.
There is nothing, absolutely nothing you can ever fill me in on.
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The 2004 US Elections:
The Mother of all Vote Frauds
"Those who cast the votes decide nothing, those who count the votes decide everything." - Joseph Stalin
March 23, 2004—The 2004 election has already been rigged. The corporations and the military industrial complex have bought themselves a government and they aren’t going to let some silly little presidential election jeopardize their investment. [Ballotpaper.org]
April 7, 2004—Machines will produce 99.4 percent of the election results for the upcoming 2004 presidential election. With all the hoopla over voting machine "glitches," porous software, leaked memos, and the creepy corporations that sell and service these contraptions, and with all the controversy that surrounds campaign financing, voter registration, redistricting issues, and the general privatization of the election process, we are missing the boat on the biggest crisis facing our democracy. Americans aren't really voting. Machines are. Call it faking democracy. [Online Journal]

Alex Pelosi's new film "Diary of a Political Tourist" catches a tipsy Congressman Peter King making a comment at a White House function before the election had been finished that, "It's already over. The Election's over. We Won."
When Pelosi asks, "How do you know that?" King replies, "It's all over but the counting. And we'll take care of the counting."

November 1, 2004 - When would-be-voters were asked whether the nation was headed in the right direction, about 52-55% people have replied negatively. Under this scenario, the leadership change is all but assured. Mr. Bush and his campaign team may project an optimistic outlook as they spoke before the media tonight, but I feel that while Bush’s number is hovering around 47-48%, which is the same number for Kerry, it does not bode well for the Republican candidate.

You wouldn't steal George, would ya?
http://whatreallyhappened.com/steal_election.html
Incumbents never make surges from their last horse race number.

Examples:

1956 Eisenhower's final horserace projection 59.5%, his actual vote total 57.8%

1964: Johnson's final horse race projection 64%, his actual share of the vote 61.3%

In 1972 Nixon's final horse race projection tally 62%, his actual vote total 61.8%

In 1976 Ford's final horse race projection number 49%, his % share of the vote 48.1%.

In 1980, Carter's final horse projection numer 44%, his real % of the vote 41%.

In 1984 Reagan final horse race projection tally 59%, his real share of the popular vote 59.2%.

In 1996 Clinton's final horse race number 52%, his actual share of the vote 49.2%

The alleged miracle comeback of incumbent Harry Truman can not be included in this study because Gallup issued it's "final" result 2 weeks before the election.


On November 2, 2004 President Bush defied both public opinion and history to win the election
51 - 48.

How was this done? Simple...

Vote suppression/voter intimidation and deception. Shortages of voting locations and ballot forms. Foreign monitors barred from polls. Unmatched exit polls/actual results - actual results always skewed to Republicans. Masses of e-Voting "glitches". Computers lost votes. Presidential votes miscast on e-Voting machines throughout the US. More recorded votes than voters. Republicans gained 128.45% in Florida counties using optical scan voting machines while Democrats lost 21% - some districts showed gains of over 400% while one, Liberty County, gained over 700% for Republicans.Warren County officials locked down the county administration building on election night and blocked anyone from observing the vote count as the nation awaited Ohio's returns. Bush had 'incredible' vote tallies. 7% turnout reported in Cleveland precinct. In Cuyahoga County different towns had the exact same number of "extra" votes. And on, and on...

Full details:


Pre-November 2

Dirty tricks return to the sunshine state
Phony letters tell people they cannot vote
58,000 Absentee Ballots Missing in Florida
New Florida vote scandal feared
Gallup Poll Racially-Biased
Electronic vote machine too easily corrupted
Purposely Corrupted Diebold Voting Terminals
Paid Bush supporters cause uproar
1 Million Kerry Votes Already Stolen
November 2

Late Ruling Allows GOP to Challenge Ohio Voters
Foreign monitors 'barred' from US polls
Six news groups sue Ohio elections chief
Voting list snafu causes problems in Marion County
Bogus calls target area Democrats
GOP doing all it can to keep minorities from voting
Is there inner-city election suppression in Ohio?
E-Voting Problems Crop Up

November 3

Group tallies more than 1,100 e-voting glitches
Residents turned away at polls
E-Voting machines give Bush 5% advantage
Exit polls and ‘actual’ results don’t match
CNN changes Ohio exit poll page
Errors plague voting process in Ohio, Pa.
November 4

Kerry Won. Here are the Facts.
Global monitors find faults
Vote Fraud - Exit Polls Vs Actuals
FRAUD!! in Ghanna Ohio
"More votes than voters: Now THAT'S a mandate!"
N.C. Computer Loses More Than 4,500 Votes
Presidential Votes Miscast on e-Voting Machines

November 5

Some observations of the 2004 election
Something looks very wrong in Florida...
Maryland e-voting controversy in presidential race
Bush’s tally was supersized by a computer glitch
Should America Trust the Results of the Election?
Software flaw found in Florida vote machines
Election problems due to a software glitch
Warren's vote tally walled off
Group Finds Voting Irregularities in South
November 6

Evidence Mounts That Vote May Have Been Hacked
Massive Voter Suppression and Corruption in Ohio

November 8

Ohio Whitewash
November 9

Countinghouse Blues - Too many votes
Bush's 'Incredible' Vote Tallies
None Dare Call it Voter Suppression and Fraud

November 10

7% turnout in Cleveland precinct?
The Mystery of the Cuyahoga County vote totals
Computer glitch baffles county clerk
Judge Rejects Suit Over Absentee Ballots
Florida "E-Touch" - "Optical Scan" discrepancies
November 11

The sorting and discarding of Kerry votes begins
Elections board to probe missing voting forms
Glitch causes Franklin Co. recount
GOP Wants Exit Polls Abandoned


Sworn testimony of vote

Dr Stephen F. Freeman from the University of Pennsylvania calculated that the odds of just three of the major swing states, Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania all swinging as far as they did against their respective exit polls were 250 million to 1.

Exit Polls and Voter Fraud:
A User-Friendly Explanation

IN mid-August [2003], Walden W. O'Dell, the chief executive of Diebold Inc., sat down at his computer to compose a letter inviting 100 wealthy and politically inclined friends to a Republican Party fund-raiser, to be held at his home in a suburb of Columbus, Ohio. ''I am committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president next year,'' wrote Mr. O'Dell, whose company is based in Canton, Ohio.
Here's how Ohio was delivered to Bush...

Votergate is an investigative documentary feature film uncovering the truth about new computer voting systems which allow a few powerful corporations to record votes in secret.

11/11/04: MSNBC looks at 2004 election fraud.

The Stolen Election Audio Collection:
Vote Fraud is Real- Wake Up America

The Myth of a Divided America

In the year 2004 America spilled into the streets, frustrated, furious. This video shows the real America ignored by the corporate controlled media. See what America really thinks when allowed to speak without censorship.


Kerry has clearly shown he is not willing to take a stand on this issue. And indeed you will find a great reluctance in the entire government to address the fraud because of their fear that if the present election is revealed to have been a fraud, the public will start to question whether previous elections were equally fraudulent, knowing that evidence to support such a conclusion is in abundance for those who look.
The American people are at risk of waking up and realizing that they did not in fact vote for the governments which have been in power over them for decades, and did not in fact vote to approve any of the disastrous fiscal and military policies the government has set, and that in fact the majority of Americans have never agreed with much of what has been going on. If the election is revealed to be a fraud, Americans will rightly conclude that they are under no obligation to obey the government any longer, to follow the government's dictates or to surrender their money and children to a bunch of unelected thugs.

Updates:

Gallup: Bush Approval Rating
Lowest Ever for 2nd-Term Prez at this Point
April 5, 2005

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/ea..._id=1000866232

It's not uncommon to hear or read pundits referring to President George W. Bush as a "popular" leader or even a "very popular" one. Even some of his critics in the press refer to him this way. Perhaps they need to check the latest polls.

President Bush's approval rating has plunged to the lowest level of any president since World War II at this point in his second term, the Gallup Organization reported today.

"All other presidents who were re-elected to a second term had approval ratings well above 50% in the March following their re-election," Gallup reported.

Bush's current rating is 45%. The next lowest was Reagan with 56% in March 1985.

More bad signs for the president: Gallup's survey now finds only 38% expressing satisfaction with the "state of the country" while 59% are "dissatisfied." One in three Americans feel the economy is excellent or good, while the rest find it "only fair" or poor.

Gallup noted that more challenges lie ahead for Bush, including public doubts about his Social Security plan and Iraq policies.

Here are the approval ratings for presidents as recorded by Gallup in the March following their re-election:

Truman, 1949: 57%.

Eisenhower, 1957: 65%.

Johnson, 1965: 69%.

Nixon, 1973: 57%.

Reagan, 1985: 56%.

Clinton, 1997: 59% .

Bush, 2005: 45% .

Okay, tell us again how Bush won his re-election even though all the exit polls showed Kerry in a landslide. Go on. Tell us. We LOVE that one. It's almost as funny as the one about Saddam's 'nookular' weapons.


As a legal noose appears to be tightening around the Bush/Cheney/Rove inner circle, a shocking government report shows the floor under the legitimacy of their alleged election to the White House is crumbling.

The latest critical confirmation of key indicators that the election of 2004 was stolen comes in an extremely powerful, penetrating report from the General Accounting Office that has gotten virtually no mainstream media coverage.
The government's lead investigative agency is known for its general incorruptibility and its thorough, in-depth analyses. Its concurrence with assertions widely dismissed as "conspiracy theories" adds crucial new weight to the case that Team Bush has no legitimate business being in the White House. [Free Press 10/26/2005]

The Government Accounting Office has confirmed what the blogs reported and the mainstream media media dismissed as "conspiracy theory". The electronic voting machines were wide open to fraud, and fraud likely occured in Ohio, Iowa, Nevada, and New Mexico, among other states.
There are pics and video clips also....http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/2004votefraud.html
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