il: although it's an interesting piece of discussion, i don't see what that has to do with the central point of the thread...wait a minute..what is the central point of this piece of shit?
anyways, i think the more important part of what i was saying back in the day was this
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Originally Posted by baby killa
taken out of the ethical realm you are claiming regardless abortions as 'right' or 'wrong,' your statement would seem to me to basically say 'we done fine so far with x, why can't we keep doing x?' which is essentially denying progress, or change if you prefer.
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i don't think it's terribly germane to this argument, but whether or not we did something else for umpteen bajillion years or not isn't relevant. we used to beat our wimmins down if they gave backtalk too. societies change.
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Originally Posted by Infinite_Loser
So... I'm wondering... What's the difference between a child five seconds before it's born and five seconds after it's born? How about a month before it's born and a month after it's born? Now how about seven months before it's born and seven months after it's born?
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i have no fucking clue
il. i can't seem to place a call to one to get a real clear bead on that. that is precisely the question, however - at least as far as i can tell. the important thing is this: i know i don't have a clue. i also know that
you don't have a clue. neither of us has a clue. so we're back where we started - this isn't a scientific argument. it's an ethical / philosophical / perhaps spiritual argument, that we prance around in a scientific manner.