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Old 09-25-2007, 09:01 AM   #51 (permalink)
aceventura3
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This is pretty simple. All he needs to do is give details on the model he used in '71 and how it was used to come to the conclusion that the earth was cooling. If people used his model to support conclusions that he did not support, I agree that I need to apologize for mis characterizing his work. I have not seen anything where Hansen says his work in 1971 was used without his permission, used inaccurately, or used to support a conclusion he had a problem with. For the time being I will stand by my original question - is this another error?

I have not interpreted his data. I have not even seen his data. All I ask his for him to come forward and clarify this conflict. I asked if anyone has seen where he has done this. Again, all I have done is ask questions and ask for information. Why do you guys have a problem with that? What is wrong with Hansen coming forward and explaining himself? why would he let this issue get bigger than it needs to be, when all he needs to do is address the issue? Perhaps all is needed is for him to explain why the conditions on Venus are not consistent with those on earth in the context of the affects of solar heat absorption.

Raveneye, you again say the issue is settled. On what basis or model is the question settled? Why don't you think we will be revisiting that model forty years from now? And if we do, don't we have a right to ask the authors of those models to explain why those models missed the mark if wrong.

Hansen is a man who makes strong provocative statements. Pretty much saying we have 10 years or else. And I am called to task for asking questions. Wow!

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Is it fair to say at this point that humans control the climate? Is that possible?

"There's no doubt about that, says Hansen. "The natural changes, the speed of the natural changes is now dwarfed by the changes that humans are making to the atmosphere and to the surface."

Those human changes, he says, are driven by burning fossil fuels that pump out greenhouse gases like CO2, carbon dioxide. Hansen has a theory that man has just 10 years to reduce greenhouse gases before global warming reaches what he calls a tipping point and becomes unstoppable. He says the White House is blocking that message.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/...n1415985.shtml
And he says his message is being blocked. Since he is one of the "leading authorities on global climate change" perhaps someone in the media might want to sit down and talk to him and ask him a few questions.

P.S. The above quote is from July 2006. So now we have less than 9 years.
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