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Macheath · 06-02-2003, 02:50 AM

Sun Tzu, damn good call on noticing the rape detail - we can't let the press use something like rape to sell papers, even if it is The Sun.

SecretMethod70, I don't think it's so much about 'bad seed' troops as about making sure the military has the means to target and remove that element as soon as possible. I think a big part of that would be ensuring that 18 year olds are not left alone guarding POWs even if they are properly trained. Perhaps some of the veterans here might have a more informed opinion on the maturity issue.

As to whether this article illustrates whether we should be there or not - show me an example of this kind of thing happening in Kosovo, WWII, Vietnam, Korea, Gulf War I, WWI, etc and my opinion will be the same.

I won't criticize soldiers because nearly all of them are damn fine people - I will object however, when I hear about an alleged failure of the military bureaucracy.

06-02-2003, 02:50 AM	#11 (permalink)
Macheath Junkie Location: Sydney, Australia	Sun Tzu, damn good call on noticing the rape detail - we can't let the press use something like rape to sell papers, even if it is The Sun. SecretMethod70, I don't think it's so much about 'bad seed' troops as about making sure the military has the means to target and remove that element as soon as possible. I think a big part of that would be ensuring that 18 year olds are not left alone guarding POWs even if they are properly trained. Perhaps some of the veterans here might have a more informed opinion on the maturity issue. As to whether this article illustrates whether we should be there or not - show me an example of this kind of thing happening in Kosovo, WWII, Vietnam, Korea, Gulf War I, WWI, etc and my opinion will be the same. I won't criticize soldiers because nearly all of them are damn fine people - I will object however, when I hear about an alleged failure of the military bureaucracy.