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Hyacinthe · 08-13-2007, 06:50 PM

Cyborg Ninja I work in palliative care, for those of you that don't know that's is the last 6 weeks before someone dies, before this I worked in terminal illness wards with cancer patients. I probably know as much about chronic pain as is possible without experiencing it as I see it almost every day of my life. I help people that are in so much pain from bowel cancer that even sitting up is an effort bathe and dress because their family / friends are coming by and they don't want to meet them in their pyjamas / gown. I help young girls get their wigs just right because they hate the fact that the chemotherapy has made all their hair fall out and I try to help them without touching because I know even the lightest touch will leave a bruise that's going to be staring me in the face tomorrow. That's my job, it's what I do and I can't imagine living any other way, believe me when I say I know about chronic pain.

If I wanted to sensationalise a drugs I would pick something more dangerous then tramadol. I didn't think I sensationalised it at all, drugs to me aren't very sensational.

Narcotics aren't evil they're wonderful things, this doesn't mean that your doctor might have selected the wrong one for your situation. I'm not saying you're mis-using it either, I believe you're doing exactly what your Dr told you to do taking it the regulated amount at the correct times. I have seen Drs over-prescribe, under-prescribe, prescribe completely the wrong drug before and will again, not because they've done something wrong but because everybody reacts differently to different medications.

Infact I never once even said you were addicted, I said you exhibit symptoms of physical withdrawal which can lead to addiction. I will admit I implied it in the last post and did everything but state it and I shouldn't have done that, it was immature and petty.

You're right there is no over the counter medication as strong as tramadol. I didn't say there was. What I said was talking to your Dr about different medications would be a good idea as I don't know the drugs available in your area. America, England and Australia have vastly different drug markets. So I didn't see the point giving you a list of the brand names I know and work with which you could state and get a blank look from your Dr who probably wouldn't recognise them.

This is going to be my last post in this thread because I can't see the point anymore. You don't want to listen and I have better things to do with my time then convince you.

08-13-2007, 06:50 PM	#7 (permalink)
Hyacinthe Psycho Location: Australia	Cyborg Ninja I work in palliative care, for those of you that don't know that's is the last 6 weeks before someone dies, before this I worked in terminal illness wards with cancer patients. I probably know as much about chronic pain as is possible without experiencing it as I see it almost every day of my life. I help people that are in so much pain from bowel cancer that even sitting up is an effort bathe and dress because their family / friends are coming by and they don't want to meet them in their pyjamas / gown. I help young girls get their wigs just right because they hate the fact that the chemotherapy has made all their hair fall out and I try to help them without touching because I know even the lightest touch will leave a bruise that's going to be staring me in the face tomorrow. That's my job, it's what I do and I can't imagine living any other way, believe me when I say I know about chronic pain. If I wanted to sensationalise a drugs I would pick something more dangerous then tramadol. I didn't think I sensationalised it at all, drugs to me aren't very sensational. Narcotics aren't evil they're wonderful things, this doesn't mean that your doctor might have selected the wrong one for your situation. I'm not saying you're mis-using it either, I believe you're doing exactly what your Dr told you to do taking it the regulated amount at the correct times. I have seen Drs over-prescribe, under-prescribe, prescribe completely the wrong drug before and will again, not because they've done something wrong but because everybody reacts differently to different medications. Infact I never once even said you were addicted, I said you exhibit symptoms of physical withdrawal which can lead to addiction. I will admit I implied it in the last post and did everything but state it and I shouldn't have done that, it was immature and petty. You're right there is no over the counter medication as strong as tramadol. I didn't say there was. What I said was talking to your Dr about different medications would be a good idea as I don't know the drugs available in your area. America, England and Australia have vastly different drug markets. So I didn't see the point giving you a list of the brand names I know and work with which you could state and get a blank look from your Dr who probably wouldn't recognise them. This is going to be my last post in this thread because I can't see the point anymore. You don't want to listen and I have better things to do with my time then convince you. __________________ "I want to be remembered as the girl who always smiles even when her heart is broken... and the one that could brighten up your day even if she couldnt brighten her own" "Her emotions were clear waters. You could see the scarring and pockmarks at the bottom of the pool, but it was just a part of her landscape – the consequences of others’ actions in which she claimed no part."