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Originally Posted by Walking Shadow
And you need to get aquainted with the various ties between the Big 4 bowl games and the various conferences, as you are ignorant beyond all doubt.
The Rose Bowl gets the top team from the Big 10 and the Pac 10, unless one or both of those teams is playing in the BCS game.
The Sugar Bowl gets the SEC champion, unless that team is in the BCS game.
The Orange Bowl gets the Big 12 champ unless that team is in the BCS game.
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I'm not ignorant of that at all. Let me explain it to you like you were a 6-year old.
There are 12 Division 1-A conferrences.
There are 4 BCS games.
There are 3 other major bowls (Peach, Gator, Cotton). A major bowl is one that hosts 2 ranked teams and is played on or after January 1.
Put on your pretending hat and make believe that of the 7 bowls, 3 of them do not have a champion from one of the 12 conferrences in it. So that means that the Peach or Gator or Cotton bowls doesn't have a conferrence champion in it. Since they all have deals with the various conferrences to take the runner-up, that should be easy to understand. Can you do that? Good, I knew you could.
Now you just let me if you need to know which conferrences line up with which bowl, and I'll be more than happy to fill you in. Ignorance is a state easily fixed with the application of information, and clearly you're lacking in that.
Here is where it will get tricky for you, so you need to pay close attention and don't doodle on your page or look out the window. If a team wins one of these other 3 bowls, they could be a good team the next year. Even if they don't win, they could be a good team next year. If you play in a major bowl, like, oh, say, the Gator Bowl, and win that could still qualify you for being in the top 25 the next year.
Now, just to restate things so that you don't have to use your scroll wheel and try to remember what you've said in the past, you said that an 8-5 record with no conferrence championship and no major bowl win means that a team should not be in the preseason top-25. So we have 12 conferrence champions that immediately meet your requirement. There are 7 major bowls, of which 4 already have at least one conferrence champion in them and was pointed out by you, star pupil that you are. That means that 3 don't necessarily have a conferrence champion in them, which means that there are 8 champions unaccounted for (do you need me to show you the math? 12 minus 4 equals 8).
Keep your pretending hat on and journey with me to the land of make-believe and think about how the 3 other bowls don't have champions in them. Pretend that no champions make it into those bowls. Can you do that? Good, I knew you could. That means that the winners of those games all won major bowls but weren't conferrence champions. So what is 12 plus 3? Very good! It's 15! You get a gold star next to your name,
Walking Shadow. That means that there are 15 teams that qualify to be in the top 25, using your method.
So what does that mean? Well I'm glad you asked. That means that there are how many spots left in the top 25? No fair taking your shoes off to count that way. You're a big boy, so you should know how to count to 25 by now. That's right! It's 10!
So, is it possible that a team could not win a major bowl and not win their conferrence and still be a preseason top-25 team? Yes, there are 10 slots left! That's right! And if one of those teams was 8-5, beat some big teams last year and had a good recruiting class they might actually get that rank.
So is that simple enough for you, tough guy, or do you need me to explain it like you were 3? I can do that, but it would probably have to be in boardbook format and you'd probably need a nap and a bottle midway through.