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Old 07-20-2007, 11:59 PM   #72 (permalink)
dksuddeth
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Quote:
Originally Posted by willravel
It's not unconstitutional for the federal government to spend money. Please read the constitution:
http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html
don't even begin to try to school me on the constitution. You're way out of your league.

spending bills alone are not in violation of the constitution, it's when there are thousands of earmarks that ARE in violation of the constitution, that the whole spending bill is in violation of the constitution.

If some of you people are going to actually require to have every damn detail spelled out for you in black and white detail, my posts are going to be longer than hosts. I'm pretty sure that most of you ignore his long ass posts because of this.

Quote:
Originally Posted by dc_dux
It is absolutely not unconstitutional for Congress to appropriate money on any and all programs that provide for the general welfare of the US:
Article I, Section 8 - Powers of Congress

The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States
welfare: welfare n. 1. health, happiness, or prosperity; well-being

dk...unless there is a strict definition or enumeration of what constitutes "general welfare" somewhere in the Constitution of which I am not aware or a Supreme Court ruling that narrowly defines "general welfare" as it is applied in Art I, Sec 8, then your argument is baseless.
and a 250 million dollare bridge in alaska that goes to an island is 'general welfare'? This is the crap that is unconstitutional and you damn well know it. Again, if you require every minute detail about all specific arguments, you're out of your league.


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Originally Posted by dc_dux
I understand that he doesnt agree with how most federal programs are funded.

What I want to know is how he could possibly maintain that position and govern as President. (No RP supporters seem willing or able to answer that questions, nor does RP himself.)

Would he veto every appropriations bill?....Only to have most, if not all, overridden by Congress.

Is that really the chaos you want in your federal government? Do you have any idea of the impact that would have on your life...and not in a helpful, positive way.
so what you're really saying is that to make sure things move along smoothly, to hell with the constitution. what a fine upstanding law abiding american you are.
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Last edited by dksuddeth; 07-21-2007 at 12:04 AM.. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
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