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Old 07-06-2007, 07:44 PM   #82 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by reconmike
Cut and dry, who said the name PLAME was a CIA covert op? was it Armitage or Libby?

And Host if ya want to get personal, you would still be in Canada if it werent for a by golly a PARDON by the US president Jimma Carter.
I never went to Canada, reconmike...because I didn't do anything wrong. President Ford, in all of his unelected magnanimity, pardoned Nixon, the criminal, UNCONDITIONALLY, and then offered refuseniks like me....a "pardon" that required working two years in a community or human services related low paying job, and the signing of a "reaffirmation" of "loyalty" to the US.

I already had spent years in low paying jobs...the only kind you can get if you had no selective service classification and you refused to provide a false one on a job application.....but the Ford oath was an insulting to my beliefs.



Ford didn't grasp that he was a criminal because he obstructed justice by pardoning Nixon, and that I ignored selective service because it was the right thing, the legal thing, and the moral thing to do at the time. The crime was the contrived Gulf of Tonkin resolution, the suppression of Daniel Ellsberg and others trying ro publish the Pentagon papers, and the Nixon approved break in of Ellsberg's psychiatrist's office, and the strategy if bombing North Vietnamese rice fields, ambassador GWH Bush's denial, at the UN, of the intent to bomb the rice field dikes in North Vietnam...and Cheney's support for the war while obtaining 5 deferments for himself because he had "other priorities". If everyone had come to the decision I came to in that era reconmike, LBJ and Nixon could not have gotten so many people killed for nothing, and Reagan would not have had a failed, avoidable, criminal war to shill as "noble".

I was an 18 year old who caught a glimmer of what it took Gen. Smedley Butler a 30 years carer in the Marines to figure out. Jefferson, Madison, Franklin, and Adams knew it, too. It is confirmed that Bush and Cheney know it....for sure..... It's a racket , reconmike...and the ones who see it become POTUS or VP, and the ones who don't...... end up like Jessica Lynch, or like thousands of low income minorities who ended up etched in stone on the walls of the Vietnam memorial.

Cassius Clay was one of the smartest, selfless, courageous men of that period, reconmike, and you probably considered him a coward.

They can't fuck with you if you opt out, reconmike...and they'll kill a lot less innocents if you refuse to be complicit....to cooperate. They put the gun in your hand...and they tell you who to shoot it at....but, only if you let them.

You always have that choice....and if you respect yourself, it becomes an obligation.......the potential for large numbers of us to know that is the greatest fear in the minds of the Bushes and the Cheneys....

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