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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
Thank you for both your acknowledgement of emotional positions and your willingness to understand and let it go at that.
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Absolutely. We're all friends here.
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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
In MY mind, people seem to forget, or at least not think that it's important, that there is a part of the 5th amendment that says 'nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process of law'. Now, knowing that 'prior restraint' is SUPPOSED to be unconstitutional, a person should be able to conclude that you have the right to do anything you need to do in order to further your own pursuit of happiness so long as it doesn't infring on others rights, HOWEVER, if you abuse those rights, then that due process of law must be used in order to ensure you either don't do it again, or are never given a chance to do it again. Should we consider age in to this factor? I don't think the government should, but we as parents should. If I don't feel my child is responsible enough to handle something, I simply don't let that child do it. This is exercising your right to parent your children as you see fit. Holding people responsible for their irresponsibility is something we dearly need to get back in to. It's what has caused us to be in the area of wierdness we are in right now.
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Okay, but put it on the street for me. How does it play out? And what advantages do you see to this aside from the ideal of preserving people's rights? Because I can think of lots of examples where this approach needlessly costs lives.
It's a crazy example, but hear me out--right now there are adults who have their children drive them places when they're intoxicated. Not a common practice, for sure, but we hear about it happening on the news. Do we need to wait for that child to kill someone or damage property before somebody (government/society) steps in and prevents that?
In fact, this approach HAS to cost lives. If there's no driver's test, then the only way we know someone shouldn't be driving is after they've demonstrated that behind the wheel. Seems like an awful steep price to pay for one fairly minor "right". I know, slippery slope. Still, I think I'm willing to slide down it a couple inches to save who knows how many roadway deaths every year.