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The interesting thing is: this thread isn't about FDR. It seems like you're trying to rationalize and excuse current sins by calling on the sins of our past. That's not how it works. FDR can be wrong AND Bush can be wrong. FDR being wrong doesn't excuse or even lessen the sins of the current administration.
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History will be the judge of Bush. I don't think he is a lier or immoral, I think he says and does what he thinks is in the best interest of the nation. I am beyond the point of trying to debate the minutia of what Bush said on one day to the next. Hind-sight is 20-20, so we can second guess his decisions and what intelligence he used or did not use, but it seems that the second guessing of Bush has never really been about constructive debate but mostly about bashing Bush.
Bush has made mistakes. We all know that. But at a time of war, people are upset that he is not an apologist. No world leader during war has been an apologist. The stakes are too high for Bush to send messages of weakness. He is going to be a "cowboy", an arrogant S.O.B., an unyeilding a$$hole. As a world leader during war, he does not have the luxury of being humble. I am not sure some here understand that.
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Originally Posted by tecoyah
FDR did not Lie....
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I guess my question is - did he exaggerate the threat? Did he misuse intllegence? Why did he do it? Why didn't he do it with German-Americans?
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but in hindsight was mistaken.
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This suggests that he did not know what he was doing was unconstitutional at the time he did it. I think he knew it was. I think he knew that virtually all were innocent and loyal the the US.
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Unfortunately, you do not seem to believe Bush also might be mistaken regardless of the obvious evidence continuously making its way into public view.
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Not true. I think Bush has made many mistakes. In my view mistakes are not the same as lies, or being immoral.
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There comes a time ACE, when defending someone so obviously in the wrong makes you wrong as well. I can understand why FDR made this decision out of fear....
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You think he made that decision solely or partly becuase of fear? Was he the man who said "we have nothing to fear but fear itself"? I think inpart he was sending a message to various audeinces.
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But I still dont think it was right. You seem to not only comprehend what this administration is doing, but also to support it.
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It is very difficult to discuss morality and war. During war leaders have to make decisions everyday that could be shown immoral or considered lies.
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That is certainly your right, but dont expect those in opposition to respect your stance.
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My stance is one of asking questions and challenging thoughts. If people don't respect questions or wimper at a challenge of their thoughts, so be it. As is a familiar pattern when people here want to avoid the point, you can try to make this about me but it is not.