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Old 04-19-2007, 07:42 AM   #253 (permalink)
dksuddeth
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Originally Posted by Rekna
My point still stands, if you need a different one with the same point here: We can't stop people from driving drunk so we should just legalize drunk driving.

It is still an extra step, one in which he can get caught. By your logic it is easy to buy drugs illegally so we should just legalize them. Or it's easy to find child pornography so we should just legalize it. I'm sorry your logic is unsound here.
Rekna, I am unable to see how you can label Deltonas logic as unsound, even when you've used a perfect example to show the flaw in yours. Drugs are illegal....all across the board, yet they still flourish. What would be your next choice of action? To make them doubly illegal? One would think that the lessons of prohibition would have been learnt, but that is obviously not the case because we now have the war on drugs, the war on terror, and an increasing war on guns. If more and more laws are created to try to ensure that a gun does not fall in to the hands of a criminal or madman, you will eventually see that it doesn't work, more people die in massacres, and you will be left with the last option that the gun control groups and politicians want....which is to ban guns from civilian possession and just like drugs, you will guarantee that only criminals will have guns leaving ALL of us at risk.

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Originally Posted by Rekna
We can't always stop this sort of thing from happening but just because we can't stop something doesn't mean we shouldn't try to stop it. This is why we have increased our security in the US. We can't stop the terrorists but we can stop some of them. The whole we can't always do something so do nothing attitude is completely ridiculous.
What you are completely avoiding in this viewpoint is the unadulterated fact that you want the government to do your job for you....which is to provide for your personal protection and safety. That is not their job, never has been, and only will be when the USA is made in to an orwellian police state where we have police with automatic weapons on every street corner, camera that monitor our every movements both on the streets and in our homes, and GPS chips implanted in us so that all of our movements may be monitored and tracked for that eventual crime we will all commit. Is that the country you want to live in just so you can be 'protected'?

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Originally Posted by willravel
This suggests that you believe that gun control CAUSED this. That doesn't make any sense.
Gun control did not stop the purchase of the gun, but it DID allow for 32 people to be completely defenseless..so yes, gun control is the indirect cause of this massacre.

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Originally Posted by willravel
I see no reason to think that having a gun is a safe way to stop crime. I do see that many crimes are made more possible by guns. As such we should be trying to have less guns on the streets, not more.
Then why does law enforcement carry weapons?
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Last edited by dksuddeth; 04-19-2007 at 07:46 AM.. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
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