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Old 04-04-2007, 01:20 PM   #120 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by pan6467
I have often wondered what if the next wave of terrorists comes from these illegals. What do these people who are so passionate about letting them in, embracing them and just all happy that they got here say then?

"Oh it was just a small group, the vast majority would never hurt anyone."

"You're still a racist, Xenophobic KKK, white supremist, neo Nazistic, Facsist and they acted out of your hatred. It was because they were so hated by you that they blew up a mall, passed anthrax, passed tuberculosis, brought in massive amounts of heroin, cocaine, etc. all laced with poisons."

"You don't understand, they are people too. They just want a better life... who cares that they broke a law the second they came here? They were treated poorly, discriminated against when they got here so they blew up a plane, a bridge, a hospital.... it's our fault because we didn't try to embrace them enough."

Like I said.... not saying any of that will happen.... but what if it does? Will I still be a racist, Xenophobic KKK, white supremist, neo Nazistic, Facsist for having the balls to stick up for my country and demand people come here legally?

Or will I be attacked and reminded that some terrorists come here legally, some were born here.... so, no big deal that we allowed in illegals that turned out to be terrorists.
Pan..it is intelectually dishonest to put words in someone else's mouth and IMO simply is a way to ignore acknowledging your ugly generalizations.

But putting that aside, I dont advocate an open immigration policy and open borders. i dont believe we can support unlimited immigration. The current policy of allowing about 1 million/yr seems generally reasonable to me - based on quotas from countries of origin (the quotas may need to be changed to be less heavily white European) and factors like family connections, meeting our employment needs, and/or need for personal asylum. The policy is not broken; it just may need tinkering (eg...we have allowed less than 1,000 Iraqis to emmigrate here over 3 years after we raped their country and left the personal security of millions threatened)....along with a much more serious committment to border security (beyond a symbolic fence).

And that is an entirely separate issue from what to do about the more than 12 million illegals already here.

...the ones that you (Pan) seem to be bitching about the most, yet you still offer no intelligent thoughts on solutions.`

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I also don't think our government or schools should be responsible for teaching classes in all the different languages. Maybe the government can finance some language transition programs or something but putting this burden on the schools seems a bit much.
I agree its a burden on the educational system, but probably the most cost-effective way given that the primary beneficiaries are children.
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