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Old 03-07-2007, 11:17 PM   #48 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by opus123
Jeez, lobbyists in DC are doing bribes everyday. Every nation in the world does bribes aka donations. Everyone scratches backs. The trick is to give bribes in other countries to the "better" government people, rather than bribe everyone across the board. (I bet World Vision has a list of ethcial and non-ethical people in Cambodia that they do deals with). Heck, you could even take over Hybrid cars to use for bribes and that would have a good effect. Cash bribes are not as good as a general rule.

But if you want to get rid of the child sex trade, then you have to support ethical people in the Cambodian government and support US presidential runners who actually care about poor countries. Namely women Senators and congresswomen. They seem to be on the forefront of change against sex-trafficking.

http://maloney.house.gov/index.php?o...=732&Itemid=41


End Demand for Sex Trafficking Act (H.R. 2012, 109th Congress) -- Representative Maloney is the lead Democrat on legislation introduced by Representative Deborah Pryce (R-OH) which will reduce the demand for trafficking by supporting the development of more effective means of combating unlawful commercial sex activities by targeting demand; protecting children from the predators and exploiters who use them in commercial sex activities; clarifying that the operation of sex tours is prohibited under federal law; assisting State and local governments in their enforcement of existing laws dealing with commercial sex activities; conducting a Biennial Statistical Review every two years to provide a more accurate picture of the problem; and conveninge an Annual Report and Conference on best practices about reducing demand for commercial sex acts.

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c109:H.R.2012:

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Originally Posted by cynthetiq
Will, sectioning off just that part of my discussion
Oh my goodness, now it hurts when it is done to you, but it ok for you to do it to Will !

Jonathan
That morality may be fine for you. For my parents, they felt it was still not above board and that it sullied their own reputations and self worth. You may feel otherwise and may act differently if you had the same opportuinity. I feel I may have felt the same as you, possibly.

no, it doesn't hurt, it puts it OUT OF CONTEXT and he make the implication that I accept it. I have not once stated that I accept any of this.

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Will, sectioning off just that part of my discussion along with your comment is implying that I accept that as acceptable. Nothing in ALL the links and comments I have made suggest that.
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Originally Posted by willravel
The point I was trying to make, Cynth, was that some morals are so universal that the idea of imposing them really should be the last thing to consider. Take, for example, murder of children. I think that, except for a few extreme and long gone times and places, everyone can agree that murdering a child in cold blood is very, very wrong.

I think these people know what they are doing is wrong, but do it anyway because they can get away with it. If we were to stop them, we would not be stripping them of their morals or imposing morals on them that they didn't have before we stepped in.
I agree, killing a PERSON is a universal moral. Changing it to anything else, like children, bias crime, and the like IMO belittle the moral to bring focus on the difference of the individual. Murdering a person in cold blood is very very wrong, EQUALLY. The Bill of Rights doesn't distinguish rights between an adult, child, sexual orientation, race, etc. Those are as you say should be universal.

In taking your last statement, that same logic applies to those opposing birth control and those for birth control. Again, you prove my statments that each side can have the same fundamentalism and conviction in their beliefs, which again, is something that I've been trying to point out. I acknowledge your points and understand them, do you understand mine?
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