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Originally Posted by smooth
I don't agree with you using the sunni/shiite analogy.
what roachboy is talking about is not the the structure is changing and the Christians are no longer in power...
what is true is that Christians are a numerical and cultural majority...yet, they perceive themselves as a persecuted minority. And this in turn creates feelings of persecution when there are none intended.
For example, this "war on Christmas" notion you and others reference. That was BS hysteria. People weren't prevented from saying or displaying the words "Christmas." Who knows the motivation for some stores changing their signs to "Happy Holidays" (although that's always been the signs I've actually seen in Macy's and Target and around malls). I think it's more likely that signs need to last longer than one day in the retail business and generic holiday signs can even be used longer than one season.
But to the persecuted mind, it looks like discrimination.
The same holds true for "all these atheism" threads and "anti-christian" posts. A number of those objectionable replies were actually made by Christians themselves about other Christians. I only saw a few atheism threads, but I don't understand why that would translate into persecution toward Christian believers. If anything, I would think the pornography would be anti-christian...but that at least to be central to many members of this site so I don't understand if that's being objected to.
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Hmm... I guess we'll have to agree to disagree (at least for the time being). I t may be possible you missed the meaning of my posts or maybe I am misunderstanding yours. The analogy I used is not just part and parcel to roachboy's post but others as well, or in a more general sense.
I don't agree that the "War on Christmas" was BS hysteria. People were prevented from displaying Christmas paraphernalia. Your theory on "Holiday" signage is interesting and noted though.
Additionally, I don't recall claiming any "Christian persecution", but rather a more nuanced backlash against Christianity at large or fervor to "suppress" Christian elements. But no, of course not outright persecution of Christians.
Again, no one (at least I didn't) claim Christians are being persecuted, but there is certainly an anti-Christian subtext to the atheism threads and others. I'm not sure what your point about the Christians posting objectionable posts about other Christians implies. But, Christians are perfectly capable of being anti-Christian as well just like many black are anti-black etc, etc.