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Originally Posted by Halx
If airing out your social frustrations is important to you, I'm not sure what to say. One thing I'd like to change about the status quo here is the labeling that goes on. Opinions have the right to be heard. I think the invitation to "call a spade a spade" has demonstrated quite quickly that the real power is in the majority. This, to me, is unacceptable.
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We may be misunderstanding each other. The point that I was making was that forcing everyone to play nice all the time can result in what happened this past week or 2. This is exactly what I don't want to happen. By forcing, I don't mean heavy handed moderation, but social pressure to not rock the boat.
What I'm afraid of happening is that we all say what's on our mind over the next few days, then revert back to the status quo of being as inoffensive as possible. Not through executive decision, just through habit. If that happens, then we just end up going in a cycle that will bring us right back here in another year or so.
If I'm giving the impression that what I'm looking for is to air frustrations freely in a vitriolic manner as I did, then I'm not communicating my position very well. So give me some time to figure out how to better say what I'm trying to say and I'll post back.
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Originally Posted by mixedmedia
I interpreted the invitation to "call a spade a spade" to be an invitation to speak your mind freely without breaking the rules. I can see where that idea is open to interpretation, though. From what I gather in previous posts there seems to be a fair amount of people who don't feel free to voice differing opinions with a little passion or vigor without getting tapped on the shoulder by a mod. While I've not encountered any situations grave enough to mention here, I have noticed mods take great strides to avoid conflicts among members. I'm supposing that's what is being referred to and I'd have to agree that a little passionate talk, especially on controversial subjects, is not a bad thing. It's that subtle line between passionate defense or rebuttal and personal attacks that needs to be carefully walked. For the most part I think the mods here do a great job. Of course, I came here from a politics board where being called a "scumsucking liberal traitor" is almost de riguer for any self-respecting liberal. *shrug* BUT, that said in discussions there with REASONABLE people all that passion and vigor often translated into mutual respect and acceptance in the end. When this is allowed to happen there can often develop a tendency for the community to take care of itself. I think TFP is already doing that to a large extent due to the mindset of of the regular contributors and their longstanding relationships.
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Okay, this is fairly close to what I'm getting at, but I don't want to just parrot mixedmedia's post because I still want to be able to communicate my point coherently in my own words.