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Old 02-04-2007, 04:11 PM   #112 (permalink)
Willravel
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Right, but who attacked us?
Honestly? Well I can't really go into that here. The general concensus is that members of the al Qaeda, under the leadership of OBL, were responsible for 9/11. They borded planes and hijacked them in order to crash them in to military and economic targets of opportunity.
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Who is to be held officially responsible?
OBL and the al Qaeda terrorist network.
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I'm not aware of another country's army being responsible for the attack.
So only countries are capable of attacks?
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Again, how does one attack a movement?
By attacking the movement. Hitting the training camps (check), and tracking down leadership (check).
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Who is responsible for fueling that movement?
Do you mean who is responsible for funding? Saudis. Or do you mean who is responsible for throwing fuel on the fire? That would be the US.
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Who are allies, and who are enemies?
Allies were, before 2003: Germany, France, Turkey. Then we invaded Iraq for no reason and everyone got rightfully pissed.
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Who is part of the problem, who is part of the solution?
The oil industry and corrup corporations are part of the problem, and the soultion would be in allying ourselves with those who share our goals.
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Who are the victims of terrrorism?
Anyone who has ever died, injured, or frightened by acts of a country, organization, or individual that intend to control through fear is a victim of terrorism.
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Who is involved in movements of religious extremism and who is sympathetic to them?
Do you want a list?
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I'm sure you are aware of Hussein's past support of suicide bombing an American ally.
Seems to me as if you don't understand what Iraq was willing and/or able of doing. I'm sure you're aware that Iraq was not even threat to Israel, that has one of the most powerful militaries in the region and could probably attack Iraq, Iran, Jordan, Lebanon and Egypt at once without breaking a sweat.
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It seems to me that the Iraq War is a continuing salvo in some sort of struggle against the forces that shaped 9/11.
Of course this isn't based on any facts, but simply on ascertion and baseless inuendo. Did we attack China after Pearl Harbor was bombed?
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No, Iraq didn't directly attack the US, but they were part of the bigger problem that led to 9/11.
So you're saying that because some Islamic arabs attacked the US, they all deserve to be lumped together and killed? Wow.
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No, Iraq wasn't a religious theocracy, but it was sympathetic to religious causes when politically expedient, and when it went against western interests.
Ah, the war on Islam. At last the true colors are revealed.
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I would submit that Sadaam Hussein was one of the biggest fomenters of anti-western sentiment in the entire world.
He was, but not in 2003. In 2003 he wasn't even a blip on the radar. OBL was much more prominant. Oh yeah, and he was behind 9/11.
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IMO and many others smarter than myself, he was most definitely an existential threat to the west in general, and America specifically. He deliberately and boastfully put himself square in the crosshairs of an angry, bloodied post-9/11 America and he paid the price. SOMEBODY had to.
Don't assume people are smarter than you. Make them prove it through their words and actions. I think you'll find that those who you are assuming to be smarter than you actually have their collective heads up their asses. Iraq was not a threat to the west.
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