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Originally Posted by powerclown
You would have acted unilaterally?
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Did you miss the word "multilateral" in my post? I think you did.
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And gone after whom? Who would you have gone after?
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Collect evidence on who was responsible, then release it publicly and then, with the assistence of other nations who are also plagued by terrorism, we go out and stop the attackers.
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Originally Posted by powerclown
What if the UN said "no" once again? Can you remove a terror network - an movement - from power? Are they in power anywhere, officially?
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Dude, we were attcked by someone on 9/11 and we have permission, since we were attacked, to defend ourselves from further attacks. Iraq has NEVER attacked the US. There is a massive and fundamental difference between the two logically, morally, and legally. Under that same UN Charter, we had permission to go after who attacked us on 9/11.
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It seems to me that Iraq was as good place to start as any.
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You coulnd't possibly be more wrong, and it scares the shit out of me. Saddam didn't like the al Qaeda and did what he could to keep them out of Iraq. Iraq had absolutely nothing to do with 9/11 and was not a theat to the US in any way. Staring there was actually an attack on a soverign nation that had not attacked us. It was an act of war, and it was illegal.
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I wonder if its a coincidence that there have been so few major acts of terrorism anywhere, now that the jihadis have congregated in Iraq? Even Israel has had only 1 suicide bomber in the last 8 months. Coincidence, or the GWOT in full effect?
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Do you even read the news? Remember Madrid? London? This conversation is going nowhere, and it's clear that you don't know what you're talking about.
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Question: are people on the left more angry about being perceived as lied to, or are they more angry at the invasion? Is the issue Bush's sales pitch, or is it the concept of revenge?
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I'm pissed as hell that Bush was allowed to stay in the oval office after losing to Gore in 200. I'm dissapointed that he was on vacation 60% of the time and then 9/11 happened. I'm livid that no evidence was provided about the actual 9/11 attack's connection to the al Qaeda, as Condi promised. I'm enraged that we attacked Iraq instead of doing what makes an iota of sense and no one could stop it. I'm confused as to how people that still think Iraq wasn't a mistake can walk and breathe at the same time.