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How many soldiers thought that Iraq had direct links to 9/11 when they signed up? It's not condescending to explain that everyone was fooled. I think that most soldiers sign up to protect their country. There are no soldiers in Iraq defending the US right now. Not one. They have been fooled or confused or indoctrinated. If it makes me arrogant to point that out, then maybe arrogance is what the soldiers need to hear in order to figure out what's really going on. I don't think I'm arrogant, I know I'm a realist. If soldiers can't take the sting of truth, how can they be expected to take the sting of battle?
Also, I know a lot of military officers. I'm not operating in a vaccum. I talk with my friends in Iraq all the time, and they will, on occasion, get read the riot act. I had one of my friends start to tell me how they scared the shit out of some Iraqi family one night, and I calld him on it immediatally. I think a lot of soldiers are scared and confused, and I think that a lot of the bullshit rhetoric that comes out of the white house is accepted as gospel by the troops because they want to believe that what they are doing isn't a waste. That's what we professionals call denial.
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Who are you? Some "professional" that sits in an office playing arm chair quaterback?
Most who join the military and combat units do so because they are warriors,
I know it is hard to believe but there are still men out there that want to do that, be a warrior.
Whether you know this or not when someone joins the military they volunteer,
meaning they can get a contract stating what their MOS, (job, for you professional types) will be.
Who says you that what you speak is the truth, you aren't arrogant, but what the "professionals" call having delusions of granduer.
Most combatants there aren't scared or confused, most are seasoned veterans, who also know what to do under fire and how to do it.
They are "professional" soldiers, and trained in the arts combat.
Again sit in that office and speak for "most" of the people bearing what is going on there.
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A meaningless death is probably the worst thing for any soldier. My grandfather, one of my biggest role models, was a career army officer. He was a big part of my development of the understanding of concepts like honor and sacrafice. When a soldier dies meaninglessly, it is as if their honor has been stolen from them. I can't imagine anything worse for someone who regards honor highly.
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Honor and sacrafice? Did you learn either of these from your grandfather?
What gives you the experience to know any of our troop's deaths were without honor. Sounds like selfeshness was learned also since you alone know the meaning of dying with or without honor.
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I've been shot in the leg with a pistol, but no. I've not been a soldier, because I know that I would be required to answer to a president who usually doesn't know jack shit about war, but that's a personal position. I don't hold others to that specific belief necessarily. This has more to do with allowing the fog of confusion to allow our defensive fource to become a personal military to a few corrupt people.
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Were these the same views your grandfather, the career army / role model had? Because I am sure the during his tenure, he had one or two presidents that filled that descripton.
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I'm Willravel, and I'm right. Don't pretend like a soldier is automatically right because he's a soldier, as that insults both of our intelects.
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Again who says your right? He asked you who are you to tell a soldier his business? Untill your on the business end of a firearm, bb guns excluded,
you haven't a clue what soldiering is about.
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I want them to defend the country as they want to do. Iraq has nothing to do with the defence of our country. When the want to fight in Iraq is based on misconceptions because of continued lies....well you can see the death count. You can see the fighting continue. You can see terrorism on the rise. Nothing good has come of this. We are killing more people than Saddam would have had he remained in power.
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Terrorism on the rise? I am finding it hard to locate the terror attacks on the US post 9/11.
Death count on the rise? Really? Someone with such a strong military background should know this happens in war.