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Originally Posted by filtherton
Smokers do have representation; they can vote like the rest of us.
Furthermore, the idea the we should leave the market to its own devices as a matter of principle presupposes that a free market actually exists, and also that the interests of profit line up with the interests of humanity. Anyone who believes these things is deluding themselves.
Now, i smoke 8 months out of the year, but i like the bans, and i live in one of the coldest states in the union. The majority of people think smoking is gross, the majority of people support smoking bans, there is no constitutional right to smoke. These are all facts.
Finding yourself on the side opposite the majority of a public health issue sucks, but really, your rights haven't been violated, and neither have the rights of private business owners.
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Fisrt Issue 5 in Ohio tomorrow DICTATES: NO SMOKING IN ANY PUBLIC PLACES. Owners no longer have a choice.
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And pan, i don't understand how you can have faith in the mechanics of the free market concerning smoking, but not the minimum wage.
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2 totally different subjects and I care not to change the subject right now.
and again, you ignore this:
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I FUCKING PAY TAXES TO PARTAKE IN THIS..... YOU USE MY TAXES IN ONE FORM OR ANOTHER..... YET YOU WISH TO TAKE MY RIGHTS AWAY FROM ME????
AGAIN, YOU AND THE GOVERNMENT STOP TAXING THIS PRODUCT AND I'LL STOP SMOKING IN HIGHLY VENTILATED SMOKING SECTIONS OF RESTAURANTS. REFUND THE TAX MONEY THAT WAS USED TO BUILD PLACES LIKE JACOBS FIELD AND THE "Q" AND I'LL STOP SMOKING IN THOSE PLACES....
Sorry for the caps but I have yet to see a non-smoker who is demanding to make laws against smoking, acknowledge they need and use the taxes but will fight as hard to repeal taxes and will make sure the taxes get repealed.
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I'm serious you stop using the taxes, fight to repeal them and refund the smokers taxes that built public arenas that are non-smoking...... and I won't fight. But as long as I pay heavy taxes on my smoking and it is a legal substance, I will fight for my right to enjoy it and for there to be smoking areas in restaurants where the owner wants them.
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I just love people who use the excuse "I use/do this because I LOVE the feeling/joy/happiness it brings me" and expect you to be ok with that as you watch them destroy their life blindly following. My response is, "I like to put forks in an eletrical socket, just LOVE that feeling, can't ever get enough of it, so will you let me put this copper fork in that electric socket?"
Last edited by pan6467; 11-06-2006 at 11:04 AM..
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