Thread: A Smoker's Rant
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Old 11-06-2006, 09:53 AM   #56 (permalink)
pan6467
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Originally Posted by shakran
What if I work there? My employer is allowed to expose me to noxious carcinogens without providing proper safety equipment? Someone should tell OSHA, because they're not aware of that.
Well, you go to the employer and you tell them you wish not to work in the smoking section.

1 of 4 things will happen:

- the employer will not be able to find enough people to work the smoking section, thus he'll have to close it down,

- he'll have to run the risk of breaking EEOC laws by hiring smokers only for those sections,

- he'll tell you to go elsewhere for work,

- or he'll give higher pay to those that work the smoking sections.


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You're not. go outside to smoke. Problem solved.
Really where outside? The nonsmokers will soon complain that the smokers are polluting the air by the door, on the sidewalk they can't walk by without having to breathe smoke.... and so on..... Oh wait they already have and now there are some places with laws that say you cannot smoke 50 feet near a doorway, or on the sidewalk or in any public open air area.

So again, where exactly are we going to go?

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Well hell then let the market decide! Business owner doesn't want black people in his restaurant? Cool! The market will correct him. Maybe. Sure worked in the 50's didn't it!
You're kidding right? You really aren't comparing this argument to racial discrimination. Shakran, I agree a lot with you but now you are just grasping at straws here.

Yes the market will correct the owner. And in all honesty private owners still can "reserve the right to refuse service".

You cannot by law dictate how an owner will serve his clientele.

So, here in Ohio where a lot of places paid a lot of money for separate ventilation, walls between smoking areas, and so on...... they need to just turn all those areas into non-smoking.... forget the fact they spent 1,000's to make sure they separated the populations. The government has the right to DICTATE.

And you want to talk about discrimination:

I FUCKING PAY TAXES TO PARTAKE IN THIS..... YOU USE MY TAXES IN ONE FORM OR ANOTHER..... YET YOU WISH TO TAKE MY RIGHTS AWAY FROM ME????

AGAIN, YOU AND THE GOVERNMENT STOP TAXING THIS PRODUCT AND I'LL STOP SMOKING IN HIGHLY VENTILATED SMOKING SECTIONS OF RESTAURANTS. REFUND THE TAX MONEY THAT WAS USED TO BUILD PLACES LIKE JACOBS FIELD AND THE "Q" AND I'LL STOP SMOKING IN THOSE PLACES....

Sorry for the caps but I have yet to see a non-smoker who is demanding to make laws against smoking, acknowledge they need and use the taxes but will fight as hard to repeal taxes and will make sure the taxes get repealed.
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