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Old 10-31-2006, 10:42 PM   #119 (permalink)
pan6467
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Originally Posted by aceventura3
People don't always have to move. Another option is to learn new marketable skills. There are other options. It seems that the main point is missed - people don't have to be victims of circumstance.
Is this from the same guy who said this (how quickly he changes his tune and redefines "the point" of the debate )??????


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Originally Posted by aceventura3
You are kidding, right? People moved here from Europe with nothing a few generations ago. During Jim Crow in the South hundreds of thousands of families move North with nothing. During the depression people moved. Today millions cross our southern boarders with nothing, but a hope and a dream. You say Joe Blue Collar can't move from the "rust-belt" or some other dying town to where jobs are plentiful??? Please tell me you are kidding. If you are not kidding, are people really that lazy and short-sighted?

Ok, we'll take that you truly meant the top and the first was just an emotional response given way back when......

So the people I described from Hoover, Timken and so on... that have mortgages they cannot afford, houses that they can't sell and tax liens on their houses are supposed to find a way to get money to go to school to learn a new trade that will still pay them what? And exactly when are they going to find the time to go to classes when they have to work 2 jobs to try to keep food on the table?

Victims of circumstances????? what are they supposed to do?

What are the communities that lose that tax base supposed to do for the schools, police, safety departments?

Like I said, why don't you come here and tell these hard workers who have had their lives destroyed that they are wimps?

Tell them that losing their jobs, not being able to honor their debts thus watching their credit ratings plummet, making 1/3 of what they used to because that's all the jobs around here pay, that they are crybabies and being victims, that it's easy to get a job that will pay you enough to have some pride, stand tall, be able to pay that debt and keep your family fed....

Tell those people here that...... see how well they buy into your side.

Props on making it all the laid off workers fault and not addressing anything I said.
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