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Moskie · 10-17-2006, 08:05 PM

thank you, dc, that's my opinion as well.

Has any of the left here claimed that Islam has a spotless reputation? Of course not. Our contention has been that problems do exist, but the solution is not to make blanket statements and policies regarding Islam. We've seen people in this thread (hiredgun) and friends of people in this thread (Ustwo's lunch date) that represent a level-headed, reasonable side of Islam. We're not sure whether that group represents the majority of Muslims, but we need to make sure those people become the ones in power of the Islamic people, and not the extremists that are currently causing all this trouble around the world.

Another reason we are against the notion of being against Islam as a whole, is that it takes us down a road that has no winners. Here's the only set of events I see that starts with the ideals put forth in the OP:

1. Islam is inherently evil and violent.
2. In order for the world to be safe, Islam must then be destroyed, since it's mere presence brings evil and violence.
3. Declare war (in some form or another) against all followers of Islam, since they are, by definition, evil and violent.
4. Partake in said war, causing mass international instability, and countless casualties.

If there's another set of events that I'm not seeing, please let me know. Because I, for one, find that to be an unacceptable situation. One that needs to be avoided at all costs. My idea for avoiding this is to reject the first statement, then work to get moderate Muslims who are not evil and violent into control of the Islamic community.

Is that so unreasonable?

10-17-2006, 08:05 PM	#63 (permalink)
Moskie Pure Chewing Satisfaction Location: can i use bbcode [i]here[/i]?	thank you, dc, that's my opinion as well. Has any of the left here claimed that Islam has a spotless reputation? Of course not. Our contention has been that problems do exist, but the solution is not to make blanket statements and policies regarding Islam. We've seen people in this thread (hiredgun) and friends of people in this thread (Ustwo's lunch date) that represent a level-headed, reasonable side of Islam. We're not sure whether that group represents the majority of Muslims, but we need to make sure those people become the ones in power of the Islamic people, and not the extremists that are currently causing all this trouble around the world. Another reason we are against the notion of being against Islam as a whole, is that it takes us down a road that has no winners. Here's the only set of events I see that starts with the ideals put forth in the OP: 1. Islam is inherently evil and violent. 2. In order for the world to be safe, Islam must then be destroyed, since it's mere presence brings evil and violence. 3. Declare war (in some form or another) against all followers of Islam, since they are, by definition, evil and violent. 4. Partake in said war, causing mass international instability, and countless casualties. If there's another set of events that I'm not seeing, please let me know. Because I, for one, find that to be an unacceptable situation. One that needs to be avoided at all costs. My idea for avoiding this is to reject the first statement, then work to get moderate Muslims who are not evil and violent into control of the Islamic community. Is that so unreasonable? __________________ Greetings and salutations.