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Bossnass · 10-15-2006, 09:06 AM

Originally Posted by Bossnass
has also not been shown to be dangerous.

From post #30
Quote:
Aluminum toxicity occurs in people with renal insufficiency who are treated by dialysis with aluminum-contaminated solutions or oral agents that contain aluminum. The clinical manifestations of aluminum toxicity include anemia, bone disease, and progressive dementia with increased concentrations of aluminum in the brain.

Conceeded in previous post. People with liver problems treated with x-contaminated solution. You can replace x with virtually anything.

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Prolonged intravenous feeding of preterm infants with solutions containing aluminum ---is associated--- with impaired neurologic development.

"Association" is a nice catchphrase where a real correlation or proof has not been shown.

Exposure to high levels of aluminum --may-- result in respiratory problems (aluminosis). Inhalation of bauxite (aluminum ore) fumes --may-- cause pulmonary fibrosis. Aluminum in the bloodstream --may-- lead to neurological symptoms and --may-- be fatal.

If you remove the "may"s and that is a scary statement. With them, it may be scary, but isn't.

This thread is really going off on a tangent. I get flu shots because I am convinced beyond doubt that the immunolgy science is proven to work. I agree that preventative medicine is a better course, but I disagree that the princples behind vaccination are flawed.

The second argument that was presented is "well, the flu shots have poison, so I don't take them" is plausible. However, the amounts of said substances do not pose a danger, and such an arguement seems to be grasping at straws. All of the substances have many other larger and more common exposure factors than in flu shots.

I don't have suffcient background to argue against mercury or formaldehyde, although I honestly don't think there is harm presented in signicant amounts of formadehyde. Glycol is bad, but again, it is presented in such small quantities that it is not a danger. You don't drink a bottle of antifreeze to wash down a flu shot.

Finally, I know a fair bit about aluminum. I stand by my previous argument that it has not been shown to be a danger. It is suspected, in unique circumstances, but has not been shown.

(edited to emphasize where I wanted the emphasis)

10-15-2006, 09:06 AM	#45 (permalink)
Bossnass Détente Location: AWOL in Edmonton	Originally Posted by Bossnass has also not been shown to be dangerous. From post #30 Quote: Aluminum toxicity occurs in people with renal insufficiency who are treated by dialysis with aluminum-contaminated solutions or oral agents that contain aluminum. The clinical manifestations of aluminum toxicity include anemia, bone disease, and progressive dementia with increased concentrations of aluminum in the brain. Conceeded in previous post. People with liver problems treated with x-contaminated solution. You can replace x with virtually anything. ... Prolonged intravenous feeding of preterm infants with solutions containing aluminum ---is associated---* with impaired neurologic development.* "Association" is a nice catchphrase where a real correlation or proof has not been shown. Exposure to high levels of aluminum --may-- result in respiratory problems (aluminosis). Inhalation of bauxite (aluminum ore) fumes --may-- cause pulmonary fibrosis. Aluminum in the bloodstream --may-- lead to neurological symptoms and --may-- be fatal. If you remove the "may"s and that is a scary statement. With them, it may be scary, but isn't. This thread is really going off on a tangent. I get flu shots because I am convinced beyond doubt that the immunolgy science is proven to work. I agree that preventative medicine is a better course, but I disagree that the princples behind vaccination are flawed. The second argument that was presented is "well, the flu shots have poison, so I don't take them" is plausible. However, the amounts of said substances do not pose a danger, and such an arguement seems to be grasping at straws. All of the substances have many other larger and more common exposure factors than in flu shots. I don't have suffcient background to argue against mercury or formaldehyde, although I honestly don't think there is harm presented in signicant amounts of formadehyde. Glycol is bad, but again, it is presented in such small quantities that it is not a danger. You don't drink a bottle of antifreeze to wash down a flu shot. Finally, I know a fair bit about aluminum. I stand by my previous argument that it has not been shown to be a danger. It is suspected, in unique circumstances, but has not been shown. (edited to emphasize where I wanted the emphasis) Last edited by Bossnass; 10-15-2006 at 01:45 PM..