seretogis, I've posted tirelessly on this forum, in attempts to defend same sex orientation, and to educate, if it is possible, as I did on this thread:
http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthread.php?t=86477
, in this post:
http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showpos...6&postcount=38
I see the circumstances of Mark Foley being similar to the story of the Boy Scouts executive who back a policy prohibiting gay scoutmasters. The issue is not about me. It is about ignorance about homsexuality, combined with religious influenced prejudices, that combine to link homosexuality with "deviance", including a mistaken belief....a prejudice, that links homosexuality with sexual attraction and sexual abuse of children.
Indeed, this ignorant prejudice is a cornerstone in some of the conservative christian "argument" against the acceptance of the fact that homosexuality is normal, not a disease or a pathology, to be "treated" or to be "rehabed" away from. This "influence" of conservative religious prejudice has become entrenched in the politcal platform and the legislative agenda of the republican party, to the point that it has driven republican homosexuals "underground".
IMO the republican political agenda breeds a hypocrisy driven suppression of what, in many other areas of society, is a routine (normal) attitude about sexual identity and orientation that is at the root of the failure of republican house leaders to confront Foley and report his behavior with house pages, to investigative authorities, years ago.
I believe that, these house "leaders" believe their own bullshit....that homosexuality is deviant, a disease....sinful.....and they cannot discern normal, same sex orientation, from the perversion that is Foley's sexual attraction to teenaged boys. <b>They absurdly lump homosexuality with deviant sexual behavior, and ironically, dismissed Foley's abnormal interest in boys, as an extension of his closeted homosexuality, which they were all aware of.</b> The flawed demonizing of homosexuals as a political tactic, resulted in ignorant dismissal....by Hastert and Boehner, of Foley's actual signs of sexual deviancy.....they overplayed and wrongly reacted to homosexuality, "lumped it in" with deviant sex, and <b>underreacted to Foley's deviant behavior with the pages,</b> because their own religiously tainted political bullshit, renders them unable to tell the difference !
<b>This ignorance and prejudice of the WSJ is a fine example of what I just tried to explain. I am surprised that they don't begin their ignorant bullshit with, "everbody knows that your shouldn't allow homos near young boys."
(This thread is about trying to stampout the ignorant prejudice in this WSJ article, and not about supporting it.....)</b>
Quote:
http://opinionjournal.com/editorial/...l?id=110009033
Paging Mr. Hastert
Could a gay Congressman be quarantined?
Tuesday, October 3, 2006 12:01 a.m. EDT
.....the GOP House leadership is also being assailed for not having come down more strongly on a gay Congressman for showing a more than friendly interest in underage boys. That's a different issue altogether.
At least this seems to be the essence of the Democratic and media charge against Speaker Dennis Hastert, who admits his office was told months ago about a friendly, non-explicit 2005 email exchange between Mr. Foley and another page. In that exchange, Mr. Foley had asked the teenager "how old are you now" and requested "an email pic."
In our admittedly traditional view, this was odd and suspect behavior, especially because Mr. Foley was well known as a homosexual even if he declined to publicly acknowledge it.......
.....But in today's politically correct culture, it's easy to understand how senior Republicans might well have decided they had no grounds to doubt Mr. Foley merely because he was gay and a little too friendly in emails. Some of those liberals now shouting the loudest for Mr. Hastert's head are <b>the same voices who tell us that the larger society must be tolerant of private lifestyle choices, and certainly must never leap to conclusions about gay men and young boys.</b> Are these Democratic critics of Mr. Hastert saying that they now have more sympathy for the Boy Scouts' decision to ban gay scoutmasters? Where's Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi on that one?...
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.........The_Jazz and flstf, I don't think that my posts on this thread are good examples to use to point out that I am "too" partisan....
Michelle Malkin and I, for once.....seem to post about this, very similarly:
http://michellemalkin.com/archives/006033.htm
and the Bush and republican aligned newspaper published this:
Quote:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/op-ed...2008-9058r.htm
<b>Resign, Mr. Speaker</b>
TODAY'S EDITORIAL
October 3, 2006
The facts of the disgrace of Mark Foley, who was a Republican member of the House from a Florida district until he resigned last week, constitute a disgrace for every Republican member of Congress. Red flags emerged in late 2005, perhaps even earlier, in suggestive and wholly inappropriate e-mail messages to underage congressional pages. His aberrant, predatory -- and possibly criminal -- behavior was an open secret among the pages who were his prey. The evidence was strong enough long enough ago that the speaker should have relieved Mr. Foley of his committee responsibilities contingent on a full investigation to learn what had taken place, whether any laws had been violated and what action, up to and including prosecution, were warranted by the facts. This never happened.
Rep. John Shimkus of Illinois, the Republican chairman of the House Page Board, said he learned about the Foley e-mail messages "in late 2005." Rep. John Boehner of Ohio, the leader of the Republican majority, said he was informed of the e-mail messages earlier this year. On Friday, Mr. Hastert dissembled, to put it charitably, before conceding that he, too, learned about the e-mail messages sometime earlier this year. Late yesterday afternoon, Mr. Hastert insisted that he learned of the most flagrant instant-message exchange from 2003 only last Friday, when it was reported by ABC News. This is irrelevant. The original e-mail messages were warning enough that a predator -- and, incredibly, the co-chairman of the House Caucus on Missing and Exploited Children -- could be prowling the halls of Congress. The matter wasn't pursued aggressively. It was barely pursued at all. Moreover, all available evidence suggests that the Republican leadership did not share anything related to this matter with any Democrat........
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and...earlier, when he was "for it"..... before he was against it, Bill Frist embraced the Taliban:
Quote:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061002/...hanistan_frist
Frist: Taliban should be in Afghan gov't
By JIM KRANE, Associated Press Writer Mon Oct 2, 7:56 PM ET
QALAT, Afghanistan - U.S. Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist said Monday that the Afghan war against Taliban guerrillas can never be won militarily and urged support for efforts to bring "people who call themselves Taliban" and their allies into the government. ......
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