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Originally Posted by boatin
I get tired of mythology of the United States. We have done more good than any country in history. A good honest look at our crappy decisions and poor choices doesn't detract a bit from the great stuff.
An unwillingness to look at the bad stuff we've done just sets us up to do more of it. We're never going to have slaves again. We're never going to round up differnet nationalities and put them in camps. Our 'bad things' morph and vary in severity. But pretending that they can't happen is foolishness.
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Very well said.
The United States,
without doubt, is the greatest country in the history of the Earth with its emphasis on freedom, democracy and general good intentions towards others.
But to pretend there have not been bad decisions, or even crappy, illegal and sometimes immoral acts, is just breathtakingly stupid. That kind of hubris does more to destroy the reputation of the US amongst like-minded "Western" countries that almost anything else.
The world would be indescribably worse off without America.
But some people here think it has never made a single mistake.
How arrogant is that?
Mr Mephisto
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Originally Posted by Seaver
Um... you believe this?
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Well, we would have to see, wouldn't we.
If you simply don't believe them, then why do you expect people to believe the US in anything they say? That's a bit of a vicious circle right there.
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Israel left Lebanon back in the 80s. They've been getting pretty much daily attacks since. Please, explain how you can trust their statement after 20 years?
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Erm... No they didn't.
Israel
still occupies the Sheebaa Farms, an area close to (some say part of) the Golan Heights.
Hezbollah have regularly stated that would revert to politics only were Israel to return this occupied land to Israel (they also want maps of Israeli landmines).
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/B405467.htm
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exer...55FF28BF92.htm
There's also an interesting article about Hezbollah in general at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hezbollah. I suggest you read it.
Mr Mephisto