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Old 08-01-2006, 10:42 AM   #16 (permalink)
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ustwo, what used to happen on these threads, when...as I so often try to do;
I "saw off" the branch (in this case, a Murdoch "psy-op piece" intended to glorify the IDF and to demonize hezbollah.....) that reinforces the flames of the "viewpoint" that News Corp's HWT.au attempted to fan into an inferno......

....what used to happen.....even from you.....was that, once the reliability of the OP "story" was called into question, you would <b>stand DOWN.</b>....at least until you could come up with a reliable basis for your indignation.

Your indignation should be directed at the real consideration of the possibility that you don't....and cannot...."know what you know". If Ruppert Murdoch really does control the decisions of 175 newpapers' editors, as to what they filter, embellish, and then "present to you", as "news", and you add in the influence of foxnews, here in the U.S., to the "mix", how do you justify anything that you've posted, or that anyone else here has posted, in reaction to the content of the HWT "report", in this thread OP?

Your indignation should be directed at Paul O'Neill's account, verified by Ron Suskind's interviewees who were also present at the Jan. 20, 2001 NS meeting, that Bush said:
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'We're going to correct the imbalances of the previous administration on the Mideast conflict. We're going to tilt back toward Israel." Bush continued, 'If the two sides don't want peace, there is no way we can force them.' Colin Powell said, 'a pullback by the US would unleash Sharon and the Israeli army.' ; Bush added, 'Sometimes a show of strength by one side can really clarify things'
The Price of Loyalty, by Ron Suskind, p. 71-72
Salon.com News | A marriage cemented by terror
We're going to tilt it back toward Israel." Author Ron Suskind, in "The Price of Loyalty," his book about Paul O'Neill, describes what followed this ...
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/20...ron/index.html
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http://www.mclaughlin.com/library/mo...ript.asp?id=33
..... MR. MCLAUGHLIN: Where did you get this -- these direct quotes?

MR. SUSKIND: People in the meeting were quite -- some of them quite stunned at what they heard, and many folks remembered it vividly. And what <b>you have in the book is what they all agree about in terms of what was said......</b>

Consider why hezbollah tactics are what they are....fighting in towns:
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Member Article: Sturminfanteriegeschutz 33B (StuIG) at Stalingrad
by Larry Parker

Urban Warfare has been part of the human condition since the advent of cities and organized conflict. Cities form the political and economic center of gravity of nations. <b>They are one of the preferred operating areas for the weaker party in any conflict</b> in order to negate numerical superiority or technological advantage. Consequently, while there are many good reasons to avoid urban warfare tactically, there are equally compelling strategic realities that make urban warfare necessary. Since urban warfare is unavoidable at times, the question becomes how to conduct urban campaigns effectively.
<a href="http://www.militaryhistoryonline.com/general/articles/urbanwarfare.aspx">Read more...</a>
Would HWT, or foxnews, describe the story below as an officer of General Washington's army, using a civilian girl as a "human shield"?
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http://colonialancestors.com/revolutionary/women.htm

......Major Talmage, hearing that such a girl had gone to Philadelphia, ostensibly to sell eggs, but really to obtain information concerning the enemy, moved his detachment to Germantown, and waited with a small party at a tavern in sight of the British outposts. He soon saw the country girl, and was about to be told by her of British plans, when he was informed that their light horse was advancing. <b>"Stepping to the door, he saw them in full pursuit of his patrols. He hastily mounted; but, before he had started his charger, the girl was at his side begging for protection. Quick as thought he ordered her to mount behind him.</b> She obeyed, and in that way rode to Germantown, a distance of three miles. During the whole ride, writes the major in his journal, where we find these details, 'Although there was considerable firing of pistols, and not a little wheeling and charging, she remained unmoved, and never once complained of fear.'

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