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Old 07-28-2006, 05:12 AM   #44 (permalink)
Average_Joe
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Originally Posted by Seaver
Point to me a single person... ONE SINGLE PERSON who does not know that if you eat more calories than you burn you will gain weight.[Q
Seaver, you make it sound much easier than it actually is. It's not always the number of calories in vs. calories burned. It also depends on the kinds of calories you take in. For example, I went on the Atkins diet for 2 months back in January, and I lost 20 pounds without changing my exercise routines. The rules for Atkins is basically to eat as few carbohydrates as possible. However, a person can eat as much fat and protein as they wish. My weight didn't drop due to my decrease in calorie intake, but due to a process that my body went through called ketosis, which I won't try to explain in this post.

Fat can be decreased by eating low glycemic food (the ratio between simple sugars, like glucose, to complex sugars, like fiber). This is not common knowledge, but perhaps it sounds logical. As an example, 1 orange and 1 cup of orange juice both have a similar amount of calories. However, an orange is a low glycemic food and the OJ is a high glycemic food. Both are healthy foods, but only eating the orange will help you to lose weight.


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Stress does not make you gain weight, allowing it to prevent you from working out and eating right does.
Not entirely true. Stress can trigger a defense mechanism in the body that increases fat production in cells.

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VERY VERY VERY few people have the excuse of thyroid problems, not the 1/3 of Americans that are overweight.
I agree, but still eating less and eating healthy won't solve the fat problem. Most people who suffer from this don't even know they have a bad thyroid, and doctors won't run this test unless you ask them.

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And allergies? So you're allergic to broccoli... so you eat a dozen donuts a day? Please explain that logic.
No, you don't understand my point. There are people out there who are allergic to certain foods, such as gluten (a protein in wheat foods) for example, that causes internal inflammation in the body. The inflammation can cause higher water retention and fat production. Again, most people don't know they have this allergy because the only symptom is the inflammation. Not all allergies cause obvious symptoms like hives and sneezing.

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And they dont know they have problems? If they wake up in the morning and can not find their penis.. no one is going to say they didnt know they're fat.
Well if they were female, and they found their penis, then they would have bigger problems. Again, these people know they are overweight, but don't have all the information necessary to do something about it. It is my opinion that the medical profession should take more of an active role that I'm seeing.

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Originally Posted by Ustwo
I think this is where I disagree. I don't see it as a sickness but as a poor life style choice.
I won't disagree with you, but I think this is still a fine line there.

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Doctors are not taught much nutrition beyond the basics, they are trained to deal with diseases. While the concept of your doctor covering all aspects of health in depth sounds great, its not practical, there is only so much training one can get, and specializing is the best way to get the best care for specific aliments. A lot of people want to promote the idea of the doc who does everything, but most of those people are really trying to lower costs, not improve care despite the words they use. I would say your doctors best path should be referring you to some sort of nutritionist but it’s a waste of a doctors training and limited time to explain to everyone how to eat.
OK, doctors are not well trained in nutrition, but are well trained in solving health problems that poor nutrition leads to. Perhaps if doctors are better trained in nutrition, then they would have less need to be well trained in curing diseases.

If a doctor is not responsible for explaining proper nutrition, then who is? A nutritionist, perhaps, but it is not common practice among the public to see a nutritionist regularly like they would a doctor. Perhaps it should be a mandatory subject in school like phys. ed. Unfortunately, I think the governments would prohibit schools from telling the truth about some foods due to pressure from big business. There really is no easy answer.

Last edited by Average_Joe; 07-28-2006 at 05:29 AM.. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
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