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Originally Posted by filtherton
Waste and inneficiency certainly do exist. But to look at the way higher education has been funded, at least in my home state, for the past decade and then to claim that costs are increasing due solely to waste and ineffeciency is silly.
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The Feds don't control the costs. Increasing costs is attributed to those who run the schools. If the complaint is that the Feds are cutting support thats one thing, if costs are going up thats another. I think a reason costs go up is because universities know they have a "sugar daddy", or the federal government to make it affordable for the average person. The schools have had no incentive to improve and cut costs. Perhaps this is a good topic for a new thread.
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Suddenly you're more discriminating about the economic information on which you base your decisions. Look, all of the statistics you quoted in the original post have their flaws too. All economic indicators are flawed; none of them give you a complete picture.
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Here is how it works:
I present facts supporting my point of view.
You challenge those facts or present facts supporting the opposing point of view.
I support my position with more facts or defend my original facts.
Etc
Etc.
Until you conceed to my point of view.
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Crime is most definitely not generally down. At least not where i live. Crime rates are more closely connected to the illegal drug culture not the economy? I'd be very be interested to see your methods for quantifying illegal drug culture in terms of its effects on crime.
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It is common knowledge that the prisons are filled with people who have commited drug related crimes. Check out this site:
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/ It is the Bureau of Justice Statistics. Look at the long-term trends.
Also just think about it. When a UAW worker gets laid off, he doesn't start stealing cars. A drug addict steals cars to get money for drugs. With the exception of postal workers, people don't generally kill co-workers for more money, a promotion or a job, but a drug dealer will kill another drug dealer to control a drug territory to make more money.
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It isn't the economy directly effecting crime that is the problem in my city. It's the "starve the beast" philosophy, held by SSE proponents among others, that ultimately results in an underfunded police force.
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What was the crime rate during the Great Depression in your city compared to today. After you look come back and tell me if you still think crime is mostly correlated to the economy.