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Tilted Cat Head
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Originally Posted by abaya
Yes. YES. Very well put, Owl. I think Cyn has even said something like this in his journal... that basically, the addiction is so crafty that it convinces you of your NEED for such and such stimulation, regardless of any consequences or your own common sense.
I agree with Smeth that addiction is addiction, regardless of whether it's from an external or internal chemical substance. My mom's gambling addiction was just as hazardous to her and our family as a drug addiction would have been. I suppose she had less risk of "overdosing" than a drug addict would have, but sometimes I wonder. If someone gambles to the point of losing everything they have, and then they decide to commit suicide, is it really much different from dying of overdose?
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Originally Posted by cynthetiq
And so the episode begins with me sitting in a room about to get high, just as I'm about to start I think to myself about what Skogafoss says (she said if I got high again she would leave me there would be no discussion) and I still got high. Yes, my logical mind says, "Fucktard, put that down!" but the addiction in me says, "Don't worry, get high and you won't care what the outcome is, in fact once that happens you can get high all the time."
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abaya, agreed. Addiction is crafty, because it is "cunning, baffling and powerful."
Even knowing what the outcome of a situation, the consequences it brings, the obsession of the addiction still hangs over my head, I still want and desire to get high.
There are some people who have many years of sobriety yet still wind up killing themselves because the addiction to drugs/alcohol/sex/objects/food usually is the symptom of a bigger problem. It is one of the reasons that the 12 step programs tout progress not perfection, but the desire to "go back out" pulls hard and many years. I have met many people who with 10-20 years of sobriety go back for more "alcohol and drug research."
I can say that no one can understand addiction like another addict. I personally thought it was "all in someone's head" and they should just get over it, until I sat in the seat and said, "Hello my name is Cynthetiq and I am an alcoholic and addict..." It was at that point that I finally and truly understood.
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