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Old 04-18-2006, 07:51 AM   #311 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by The_Jazz
Actually I've done it, although by mistake. I forgot to turn off my cell phone on a flight to the West Coast a few years ago and had it ring somewhere near Denver. Cellular signals don't just move laterally - they also move vertically. In other words, the signal coverage doesn't look like a disk, it looks like a half-sphere. Since 32,000 feet is only 6 miles and cellular towers are on average 10 miles apart, it is perfectly reasonable to expect a decent cellular signal, especially in an area with good coverage like, say, the East Coast....

Oh, there's also the little tidbit that the TSA is considering allowing people to use cell phones on planes in flight as a matter of course since the problem has always been suspected interference with some instruments that now seems to be proven wrong. It's been big news in my circles since I'm a pretty heavy cell user when I'm on the road.
They are considering allowing it, but in order to do so there will have to be special equipment installed in the plane. A study was done to show that the chance of making a cell phone call at 32,000 feet is something like 0.006 to 1. Since I heard that I've tried 5 times in the last 2 months to do it, and I've not got a signal on any of those occasions. The last time I left my phone on for the rest of the flight and got a text message delivered about 3 seconds before we landed that was sent 2 hours previously.


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First of all, where are you getting your information that no big pieces were found at the site? There were lots of pieces found, some big, some small. In the Colorado Springs crash that I mentioned earlier, the largest piece found was roughly the size of a large suitcase, and that was for a plane that didn't suffer multiple impacts with hardened concrete walls (as the plane penetrated the various walls). If its because you haven't seen anyone reconstruct the plane, that's because no one has had any reason to try to reconstruct the plane since there's no mystery around why it crashed. The plane itself had no faults or issues - it performed exactly as designed. The NTSB spends a considerable amount of money reconstructing airframes to figure out why things happened and what surfaces moved in which directions in relation to nearby surfaces. It allows them to figure out what the stresses where.
I'm getting it from the news coverage and from subsequent reports. There were a few small pieces found, and by a few I mean about 2, and there was dispute that they could even have come from an airplane.

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As for what videos were released and what weren't, I honestly have no idea. There may be very good reasons why not - maybe you can see passengers' faces on some of them. I don't know, but I'm making a guess. Maybe they're being held to be used at trial. Given that the video in question was of the 1 frame per second variety and focused to 15' or so, it's not surprising that it doesn't show the plane in any great detail.
How do you know that the video in question was 1 frame per second if you you have no idea about the videos that were released? The video I'm talking about showed no plane at all. You see the outside of the Pentagon, and then you see an explosion, and nothing in between.

I'll try and locate the documentary I saw that on and link it here. Actually, it's the Loose Change documentary that Crossova talks about in an earlier post.

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