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Originally Posted by politicophile
The connection between Tobin and McCain seems to be both speculative and remote. McCain hired Tobin's former boss (who has not been convicted of wrong-doing) and that's as far as the rabbit hole goes, right? I suppose one could adopt a guilty until proven innocent posture with regards to campaign workers, but why treat them differently than ordinary citizens? Is it just to fire someone because they are suspected of wrong-doing? Firing convicted criminals like Tobin is entirely justified, but why should McCain purge those who have not been convicted?
On a personal note, I know Jim Tobin well: he came to my family's New Year's Eve party in 2005. While I do not dispute the fact that Tobin received due process, there is a part of me that finds it hard to believe an honest man like Tobin would continue to profess his innocence to his closest friends when he was in fact guilty.
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politicophile, I am fascinated by your close proximity to James Tobin. I have no idea if this gives you more or less insight into this situation...it probably makes it more puzzling for you and for your family.
I believe that you are in a position to accurately answer the question of where James Tobin could have received a fairer trial, before a more potentially sympathetic court or jury, than he must have received in conservative, caucasian, New Hampshire.
I can't disagree with much in your post. I'll reemphasize my main point....why would McCain want to risk immersing himself into two scandals related to RNC campaign related criminal activity...Tobin/phone gate, and alleged criminal activity, Delay/Terry Nelson $190,000 money laundering.
What is so imporant about Tobin/phone gate for the RNC to justify the expense of "picking up" the legal defense fees, in a losing effort, and what is the signifigance that Terry Nelson was James Tobin's "boss" at the time that the proven crimes took place?
I would not post anything about McCain's decision to hire Terry Nelson, to defend him live on the radio, to feign ignorance or to actually be ignorant of Terry Nelson's "background", or to fail to "get back to us" about his reaction to having Nelson as a key campaing advisor, now that he has been informed about Nelson's contoversial relationships and activities, publicly...on air....<b>if...there was not the additional problem...for Nelson...and now for McCain...,that Nelson is at the core, according to the Texas indictment of Delay...of RNC complicity in actually laundering the $190,000 in question, and then distributing the laundered corporate sourced campaign contributions to Texas state office candidates.</b>
What does all of this combined, say.....about a "candidate", McCain...who did not have to hire Terry Nelson, but...now that he has....is stuck with him.....attached to Nelson's "stench"...and by default....Delay's, and Tobin's....and the RNC's, too.
McCain trapped himself. If he fires Terry Nelson too soon, he will appear to validate money laundering charges against Tom Delay, and cast doubt on the effort of the RNC effor that involved spending millions of dollars to "cover up" whatever the actual potentially damaging facts are in the Tobin centered, republican party commissioned New Hampshire "phone gate" 2002 campaign "dirty tricks" voting interference "Op".
Republican centered corruption seems to be everywhere. Was McCain in too intense of a partisan centric "bubble, not to be aware that he needed to seriously delve into the backgrounds and associations of all key advisors, that he linked himself or his campaign to? Unless he hired someone already indicted or convicted, can you envision the hiring of a less attractive advisor for McCain's campaign, than Terry Nelson?
politicophile, what "edits" would you propose making to the coverage of "phone gate" in this wikpedia article, to increase the accuracy and decrease any partisan tone, if you perceive one?:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_Ne...amming_scandal
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http://www.unionleader.com/article.a...5-6fb654738e39
Granite Status: Tobin legal defense may total $2.5 million
By JOHN DISTASO
Senior Political Reporter
Thursday, Feb. 9, 2006
ARE REPUBLICAN donors still paying big time for the legal defense of convicted 2002 phone-jamming conspirator James Tobin?........
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http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/29/po...erland&emc=rss
How a Tested Campaign Tool Led to Conspiracy Charges
By ANNE E. KORNBLUT
Published: September 29, 2005
WASHINGTON, Sept. 28 - The indictment of Representative Tom DeLay on Wednesday put the Republican National Committee in an uncomfortable spotlight, saying a top political aide to President Bush was the funnel through which $190,000 in improper donations passed in 2002.
According to the indictment, <b>Terry Nelson,</b> the political director in the 2004 Bush re-election campaign, was the individual who received the $190,000 check, which was made out to a division of the R.N.C. That check is alleged to have included money illegally accepted from corporations.
Mr. Nelson, the indictment says, simultaneously received a list of Republican candidates for the Texas State Legislature for whom the money was intended. Under Texas law, it is illegal for state candidates to use corporate contributions.
Mr. Nelson has not been indicted, nor has any other official from the Republican National Committee been implicated. A spokeswoman for the committee declined to comment.
At the foundation of the criminal case is a fact stipulated by all sides: Mr. DeLay was determined to win Republican control of the Texas House of Representatives in 2002. And he succeeded.
Whether the managers of the fund-raising organization he helped create for that purpose - Texans for a Republican Majority, or Trmpac - broke criminal laws in the process is part of what will be decided as the case proceeds. But Mr. DeLay's aggressive style of marrying political power and money, and of creating entities designed to raise money for specific political purposes at the state and federal level, is already on display and certain to be examined in microscopic detail in the months ahead.....
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