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Old 04-03-2006, 09:55 AM   #95 (permalink)
Willravel
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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
A quick comment on this and then we can hold the rest of this for a thread on the second amendment like I had proposed last week. /snip
I look forward to that thread.
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security systesm, safety doors and windows, and panic rooms are not defensive items. They are prevention items.
Are you sure that safety doors and windows, and panic rooms are not defensive items? If someone came to your door with a gun, and you had a safety door, they probably could not get in your house. If they are shooting at you from outside the house 1) they are a lot less likely to hit you and 2) they will attract a lot of attention. I'd call that an excelent defence. As for panic rooms (hopefully with Jodie Foster in them), they are obvsiously a defensive tool, as they defend you from anything but a nuclear blast. Those could be used for prevention, but they are active defensive measures when put to the test. If you had a choice between owning a gun or a panic room (where price is not an issue), which would you choose?
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Any hand held, non-missile projecting weapon requires that the intended victim be within arms reach of said assailant, an inherent risk in and of itself and most people are not up to that task mentally or physically. With the risk of bodily injury so readily at hand during that close up encounter, most people choose to submit quietly and hope for the best and I, personally, think that it is an offense against law abiding people to deprive them of a means of defense from a distance. It is an unnecessary risk to their own physical well being just so that the 'state' can institute a 'feel-good' law about gun control.
As I stated before, give us a better gun control option. You and I agree that current gun control measures, espically in the US, are ineffective and even counter productive. By the way, it's not often pro gun and gun control people can come together on such an issue.

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I think that gun owners would do well by helping to fix the multitutde of problems in the area of gun control, instead of simply focusing on their right to bear arms. I gladly defend my right to free press, but I call the press on bullshit every day, and I do what I can to fix the problem. The price for freedom is eternal vigilence. You can have freedoms, but you should help to maintain them for the benifit of your fellow man.
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