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Old 04-01-2006, 06:50 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Daoust
For the longest time, TFP Moderators were adamant that they would not put up any threads or forums that might be construed as a popularity contest. The idea of publically praising members of this site would lead to cliques and hierarchies. The point, the purpose of TFP is the discussions, the quality posts... But this thread is the antithesis of everything I just wrote... This thread is a popularity contest. This thread is about people, not quality posts... This thread says "look at me! I deserve attention because of something I did." Like it or not, it divides TFP members into the two categories; those that do and those that don't. It's like saying this is the cool group and this is the loser group. Cool people donate. Losers don't.

So what? you ask. I just don't think it's fair. I know that this Forum needs donators to keep it going. I accept that and I understand that. I know that this thread is a way of publically bringing the donation issue, which is a major issue, to the forefront. I just don't like the way it's done. I think you could have continued posting Halx's public service announcements and having the moderators gently reminding the members to donate. If you say that just wasn't working and this was the logical next step, then fine, I guess. I just think it's a poor way of doing it.
I don't see it as a popularity contest at all. I see it as a chance for us to say "thank you" to the people that do donate. This site is here because of the donors. There's nothing in this thread, or anywhere for that matter, that says that being a donor gives you a special board or any special treatment. People already have donor tags, does that make them a clique? I don't think so. Sometimes, people like to know that they are appreciated for helping out, and we really do appreciate it when the members lend a hand. We've said this more times then I can remember in all of the years that I've been here, "you can donate with money, or with content, either way, it helps the site and we appreciate it more then you will ever know." There are many ways to donate here, just think about how many threads there are that make you think, "wow, that's why I keep coming back here." A lot of those are made by non-donors. We love content like that and appreciate that greatly too.

Tec just wanted to take an opportunity to thank all of the people who want to keep the site alive, and let them know how much we appreciate them. I'll be the first to stand up and applaud him for it. If that makes me a hypocrit and an asshole, then so be it, I'll wear those titles with pride.
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Originally Posted by Daoust
I know I risk the wrath of the mods here. I'm bracing for it. But I just want you to know that I think that everyones opinions should be welcomed and considered, even if you don't like them. And I also ask you to be fair and considerate to those who voice their opinions.
Wrath of the mods? I don't remember us ever being draconian on here unless it was a situation that absolutely warranted it, and even then, it was always discussed, agreed upon, and usually restrained in how it was handled. And, we've always welcomed all opinions. I'm starting to wonder what board you're checking at this point If this were any other place on the net, you'd be banned, posts deleted, and no one would speak of you again. Not only is your post, along with you, still here, but we're actually discussing it and totally going off topic on what tec tried to do. I'm not trying to turn this post into a "consider yourself lucky to be here" post, because that's not my intent, but what I am saying is that if we didn't value the opinions of our members, that post wouldn't be here. This is proof of that and I just can't understand where you're getting it from that we don't value those opinions. *shrug*
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